Next Everton manager: the wisdom of TT.

[StevO]

I loved Moyes, but give him Lukaku and he’d have him running the channels instead of scoring goals in his second season. 
 

He had decent strikers from time to time, it was always the same. First season score goals, second season work harder and score less. 

[duncanmckenzieismagic]

24 minutes ago, Hafnia said:

Not convinced on the Lukaku / Moyes relationship tbh.    Lukaku would have hated the demands of Moyes and Moyes would not have tolerates Lukakus indifference to workrate. 

We seen this with Yakubu.  Moyes loves a hard grafter up front to help the attacking mids get chances. 

Did we though?

The Yaks Everton career was exactly the same as it was at every other club he signed for, superb for 12 to 18 months then lost interest and became an oxygen thief 

During his first year at the club he was banging them in for fun and there was no sign that Moyes wanted him running the channels 

[Bailey]

12 hours ago, Palfy said:

Are you still talking wages bill here or transfers or both, I’m getting slightly confused, because we were for a long time under Moyes one of the team’s that had the smallest transfer budget for years. Also we were a selling club under Moyes, not only did he have to contend with very little money to spend he had to over come players been sold, yet without the need for a DoF he brought players in for little money and made sure they left for big money, yet still managed to keep us in the hunt for top 6 finish, I find it rich after what we’ve witnessed in the last 5 years with the money spent the managers we’ve had the DoF, that people would consider Moyes in someway a failure in the time he was with us and the restraints he had to work with. 

We are talking about wages. 

In terms of transfers, every single one of the 'best of the rest' sides were selling clubs. Some of them, like Villa and Portsmouth ended up being completely stripped of their assets by their owners. 

My view is that we benefitted from a stable squad, manager and owner during that time.

Fwiw I don't think anyone saw Moyes as a failure, it was more of a case of what we did was as good as we were going to get regardless of the players bought and the money spent. I think that has been borne out a little by what has happened to Moyes since where he has in effect had 1 successful season.

I also think that once the players in that squad came to the end of their careers (Jags, Distin, Howard, Baines, Neville, Osman, Pienaar, Hibbert, Heitinga) it would would have been very difficult for Moyes to maintain that success. Ultimately where we have failed since is that we haven't had a stable squad, stable manager and to an extent a stable owner. 

[StevO]

2 hours ago, duncanmckenzieismagic said:

Did we though?

The Yaks Everton career was exactly the same as it was at every other club he signed for, superb for 12 to 18 months then lost interest and became an oxygen thief 

During his first year at the club he was banging them in for fun and there was no sign that Moyes wanted him running the channels 

It’s the second year they run the channels. Probably did his Achilles in chasing a lost ball to the corner flag.

[London Blue]

This Moyes thread seems to of gained some new life.

[Palfy]

3 minutes ago, London Blue said:

This Moyes thread seems to of gained some new life.

Don’t worry mate it will be back to Benitez very soon

[Tonsta]

Wonder if we will hear something in the next 48 hours?

[MikeO]

22 minutes ago, Tonsta said:

Wonder if we will hear something in the next 48 hours?

Bound to.

[London Blue]

1 hour ago, Tonsta said:

Wonder if we will hear something in the next 48 hours?

Think the wheel of random mangers names will be spun to see who we are linked to next. My money is on Bilic.

[London Blue]

1 hour ago, Palfy said:

Don’t worry mate it will be back to Benitez very soon

Like choosing to take a skewer through your right or left testicle.

[Haiku]

I think it is not appropriate to announce our next manager, while he's fully concentrated on his current job at the Euros.

[Cornish Steve]

14 hours ago, Bill said:

So now you agree with all that we are saying, which was the complete opposite of your original post. !!

Except over the point that Martinez did better with Moyes' team than did Moyes, I'm not sure where we disagreed.

[Cornish Steve]

4 hours ago, Haiku said:

I think it is not appropriate to announce our next manager, while he's fully concentrated on his current job at the Euros.

Ryan Giggs? 

[Harv]

4 hours ago, Haiku said:

I think it is not appropriate to announce our next manager, while he's fully concentrated on his current job at the Euros.

It's Steve Clarke.

[MikeO]

1 minute ago, Harv said:

It's Steve Clarke.

I'd take him over Southgate.

[StevO]

This thread has suddenly become a whole lot more depressing

[MikeO]

8 minutes ago, Cornish Steve said:

Ryan Giggs? 

He'd struggle to manage us from Walton prison.

[c1982]

3 minutes ago, MikeO said:

I'd take him over Southgate.

I’d take you over Southgate (as long as you wear a waistcoat).

[MikeO]

1 minute ago, c1982 said:

I’d take you over Southgate (as long as you wear a waistcoat).

I'm available (and I'm cheap)

[c1982]

2 minutes ago, MikeO said:

I'm available (and I'm cheap)

You’ve said that before!

[MikeO]

Just now, c1982 said:

I bet you’ve said that a few times…

Story of my life.

[Cornish Steve]

1 hour ago, MikeO said:

I'm available (and I'm cheap)

Ah, but will you disappear at a moment's notice to manage Barcelona?

[Romey 1878]

I don’t think I’ve ever wanted TalkSport to be right this much before  

 

 

[Hafnia]

The club will of course deny all possibility that he could have ever been our manager. 

Far too much noise about it not to be true. 

The fact that he was considered shows how disjointed the process is .... Hopefully brands is taking control of the process now. 

[Zoo 2.0]

I think given the length of time between Benitez being announced as "imminent" and the fact that he is still yet to be announced shows that he won't be our manager, the same (hopefully) can be said for Nuno.

[London Blue]

Spin the wheel and see what name comes up next.

[duncanmckenzieismagic]

1 hour ago, Romey 1878 said:

I don’t think I’ve ever wanted TalkSport to be right this much before  

 

 

Not according to Alan Myers

 

[Tonsta]

I for one have had enough of Spanish, Italian, Portuguese, Dutch, etc non have have proved to be good appointments.

Lets stick to home grown for once, give it to Potter, very well thought of, young, and enthusiastic, and wont break the bank. 

[Bailey]

http://sportwitness.co.uk/france-galtier-one-evertons-priorities-lille-coach-perhaps-expecting-better-toffees-chance-slipping-away/

 

[Bailey]

https://www.caughtoffside.com/2021/06/21/antonio-conte-reveals-plans-after-tottenham-move-fell-through/