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If I was a relationship guidance councillor, I would be saying take things a little slower you are falling in love to soon, you’ve had your hearts broken so many times in the past by doing the same thing, let’s not get to carried away and let’s see where we are after 4/5 games, otherwise it could all end in tears 😭 😂👍

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1 hour ago, Palfy said:

If I was a relationship guidance councillor, I would be saying take things a little slower you are falling in love to soon, you’ve had your hearts broken so many times in the past by doing the same thing, let’s not get to carried away and let’s see where we are after 4/5 games, otherwise it could all end in tears 😭 😂👍

Nah. I’m ready to get married, no pre nup.

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On 03/02/2022 at 18:21, Bailey said:

I really dont see Ashley Cole being a good coach. I have watched him as a pundit and he has been crap there. He also doesnt strike me as the sharpest tool in the box either. 

Then again, someone like Neville who does talk a lot of sense most of the time couldnt hack it as a manager (albeit in Spain) so who knows! 

Lampard had him in the media box and he was with a group of analysts.

Cole is highly rated as a coach. You don’t get to be an elite full back who marked Ronaldo out of practically every game without football intelligence. 

“I did my UEFA coaching badges with Ashley Cole,” said O’Hara. “And he was fantastic. 

“His knowledge of the game is incredible. His defensive side and the technical aspects of where to put yourself. How to set up drills defensively for coaching was absolutely phenomenal.

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2 hours ago, Hafnia said:

Lampard had him in the media box and he was with a group of analysts.

Cole is highly rated as a coach. You don’t get to be an elite full back who marked Ronaldo out of practically every game without football intelligence. 

“I did my UEFA coaching badges with Ashley Cole,” said O’Hara. “And he was fantastic. 

“His knowledge of the game is incredible. His defensive side and the technical aspects of where to put yourself. How to set up drills defensively for coaching was absolutely phenomenal.

This is the reason: Our defence needs better coaching. I'm impressed with the number and calibre of coaches we've brought in.

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1 hour ago, Cornish Steve said:

This is the reason: Our defence needs better coaching. I'm impressed with the number and calibre of coaches we've brought in.

I agree, this is what bodes well for us now - I think it is a good mix of experience (Paul Clement) and young modern up and coming coaches who have bags of fairly recent Premiership and European experience (either coaching or playing).

If the players here can't get inspired with the opportunity now if front of them, they never will be. 

 

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On 07/02/2022 at 11:50, Hafnia said:

Lampard had him in the media box and he was with a group of analysts.

Cole is highly rated as a coach. You don’t get to be an elite full back who marked Ronaldo out of practically every game without football intelligence. 

“I did my UEFA coaching badges with Ashley Cole,” said O’Hara. “And he was fantastic. 

“His knowledge of the game is incredible. His defensive side and the technical aspects of where to put yourself. How to set up drills defensively for coaching was absolutely phenomenal.

To be a good football coach you need a lot more than just football intelligence! Otherwise the best players in the world would always be the best coaches.

Quoting Jamie fucking O'Hara isn't going to convince me either. 

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24 minutes ago, Bailey said:

To be a good football coach you need a lot more than just football intelligence! Otherwise the best players in the world would always be the best coaches.

Quoting Jamie fucking O'Hara isn't going to convince me either. 

Kept your powder dry on that one

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I see Football Intelligence differently Most footballers have physical and technical ability. Football intelligence is what Arsene Wenger had (amongst other things) and he never played the game.

Now I agree you need other things like emotional intelligence to make it as a great coach but frankly our team just need someone who has football intelligence right now....where to stand and run seems to be a challenge.

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On 08/02/2022 at 22:00, Bailey said:

To be a good football coach you need a lot more than just football intelligence! Otherwise the best players in the world would always be the best coaches.

Quoting Jamie fucking O'Hara isn't going to convince me either. 

You said you don’t see Cole as being a good coach and went on about his punditry and that he doesn’t strike you as the sharpest tool in the box…..

so I assume those 2 factors are what you are looking at in your assumption that he wouldn’t make a good coach….

feel free to draw on the other reasons that he wouldn’t make a good coach but based on what you said about him not being the sharpest tool in the box I think you are talking about intelligence. 
 

he was a bloody intelligent footballer without question. Lee carsley was intelligent as a footballer and has cole working under him…. He’s highly rated as a coach too. 

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3 hours ago, Hafnia said:

You said you don’t see Cole as being a good coach and went on about his punditry and that he doesn’t strike you as the sharpest tool in the box…..

so I assume those 2 factors are what you are looking at in your assumption that he wouldn’t make a good coach….

feel free to draw on the other reasons that he wouldn’t make a good coach but based on what you said about him not being the sharpest tool in the box I think you are talking about intelligence. 
 

he was a bloody intelligent footballer without question. Lee carsley was intelligent as a footballer and has cole working under him…. He’s highly rated as a coach too. 

I have watched and listened to Cole and I don't see or hear that football intelligence. There is no doubt he could play the game to a very high level, but that doesn't make him a good coach. 

When you look at elite level coaches they are highly intelligent people in their area of expertise. When you hear them speak they have an insight into the game that you don't get from most others. When I have seen and heard from Cole, I have thought the opposite. 

He may turn out to be a very good coach but it would surprise me based on what I have seen/heard or him. I admit that isn't a lot.

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19 minutes ago, Bailey said:

I have watched and listened to Cole and I don't see or hear that football intelligence. There is no doubt he could play the game to a very high level, but that doesn't make him a good coach. 

When you look at elite level coaches they are highly intelligent people in their area of expertise. When you hear them speak they have an insight into the game that you don't get from most others. When I have seen and heard from Cole, I have thought the opposite. 

He may turn out to be a very good coach but it would surprise me based on what I have seen/heard or him. I admit that isn't a lot.

being a pundit is in no way an indication to their ability as a coach.  To me he comes across as being shy on the tv, it’s no marker of intelligence.  They get asked specific questions and they may disagree with views of others but don’t want to get all hoity toity on National tv.     

what elite level coaches are you talking about where their intelligence comes through on tv? 

He has forgotten more than most people would ever know about football matches and managing situations…. He has been part of two rock solid premier league defences playing under some of the most tactically demanding managers. Yet you are judging his intelligence on how he speaks on tv. 
 

 

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46 minutes ago, Bailey said:

I have watched and listened to Cole and I don't see or hear that football intelligence. There is no doubt he could play the game to a very high level, but that doesn't make him a good coach. 

When you look at elite level coaches they are highly intelligent people in their area of expertise. When you hear them speak they have an insight into the game that you don't get from most others. When I have seen and heard from Cole, I have thought the opposite. 

He may turn out to be a very good coach but it would surprise me based on what I have seen/heard or him. I admit that isn't a lot.

We’ve read the bollocks you spout on here for about ten years (maybe more), but we don’t tell everyone that you’re not intelligent. If you can’t say something nice don’t say anything at all. So I’ll say nothing. 
😂

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20 hours ago, Hafnia said:

being a pundit is in no way an indication to their ability as a coach.  To me he comes across as being shy on the tv, it’s no marker of intelligence.  They get asked specific questions and they may disagree with views of others but don’t want to get all hoity toity on National tv.     

what elite level coaches are you talking about where their intelligence comes through on tv? 

He has forgotten more than most people would ever know about football matches and managing situations…. He has been part of two rock solid premier league defences playing under some of the most tactically demanding managers. Yet you are judging his intelligence on how he speaks on tv. 
 

 

How is it not an indication? He is describing moments in football games and they are basic comments that he makes.

Maybe he cant express himself well but if he cant do that in that situation, the chances of him doing that as a coach are also low (IMO).

You only have to look at when Lampard when on MNF. His analysis was far superior to a lot of other pundits and players they have. 

There is no doubting that he can impart some knowledge onto the players, especially the younger ones because of his experience but that doesnt not make him a good coach in elite level football. 

19 hours ago, StevO said:

We’ve read the bollocks you spout on here for about ten years (maybe more), but we don’t tell everyone that you’re not intelligent. If you can’t say something nice don’t say anything at all. So I’ll say nothing. 
😂

First Shukes & Palfy and now you are at it! 🤣

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@Hafnia

Following your attached tweet, I have had a look at his Twitter page and he has certainly shown a lot more on there than I have seen on TV. Maybe there is an element of him not being as able to translate information on screen? 

Some of the things he has said about Phillips are things I have said about him in the past so maybe there is hope for him! 🤣

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25 minutes ago, Bailey said:

@Hafnia

Following your attached tweet, I have had a look at his Twitter page and he has certainly shown a lot more on there than I have seen on TV. Maybe there is an element of him not being as able to translate information on screen? 

Some of the things he has said about Phillips are things I have said about him in the past so maybe there is hope for him! 🤣

He might just feel a bit exposed on a TV set, knowing millions could be watching and how much he’ll get crucified if he says something wrong or even stutters and mumbles his words. I think he’ll feel a lot more comfortable on a training pitch with a bunch of footballers, most of who could only dream of having a career like his. Hopefully our players can learn what it takes to be successful from the new staff. 

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3 hours ago, StevO said:

He might just feel a bit exposed on a TV set, knowing millions could be watching and how much he’ll get crucified if he says something wrong or even stutters and mumbles his words. I think he’ll feel a lot more comfortable on a training pitch with a bunch of footballers, most of who could only dream of having a career like his. Hopefully our players can learn what it takes to be successful from the new staff. 

Maybe... but he also doesnt strike me as a shy person either... maybe I just have him conpletely wrong 🤣

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15 minutes ago, Palfy said:

Lampard gave massive credit to the fans for their part in this win, I would say he’s never felt the power that is Goodison anywhere in his career before. 

I’m in my 5th season as ST holder and I’ve never heard it like it was today, the first half was amazing, sod the 12th man we had 13!

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2 minutes ago, Zoo 2.0 said:

Clement is a very close second in terms of things I'm excited about at Everton. He's been there and done it all, won trophies with Real Madrid, Chelsea, PSG and Bayern. It didn't quite work out for him as a manager, but he's well known as one of the best assistants (and all round tacticians) in the game. 

No surprise that he's focusing a lot on set pieces and we've scored for fun from them so far.

Which have been our Achilles heel for far too long, things are getting better.

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It’s great to just feel a bit of justifiable belief and positivity. That’s what he’s brought.

There’s a really interesting interview with Frank from about 15 years ago by Simon Kuper (the best football journalist).

Its just after Mourinho has taken over at Chelsea. Frank is in the changing room and turns round to see Mou standing there. ‘Oh, alright gaffer’. Mou: ‘You are the best player in the world, but now you have to prove it people’.

It sound trite, but Frank said he phoned his mother up and told her that the new manager was the best player in the world, and from that point on he began to believe he was.

The point is that Frank has seen and knows a bit about what it takes to make players tick, not to blow smoke up their arse, but to say the right thing to get the best of them. 
 

I’m feeling that belief too.

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https://www.liverpoolecho.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/frank-lampard-lifts-lid-very-23084227

Reading this and I just find myself nodding because he's saying exactly what happened. There's no fluff (like Martinez) in that he talks things up when they deserve it. And he also talks about improving on what we've done and not resting on our laurels. But it's not in a negative way, you know exactly where he's coming from and isn't being negative because he can't give praise out.

I love the way he speaks about the game, it really resonates.

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I think in the two weeks Frank Lampard has been here, he has well and truly got every single fan on side. 

He come across brilliant in interviews - honest, humble, intelligent, light hearted and no bullshit.

His style of play is something everybody can get behind it - players, fans and board members.

Day 1 he has assembled a great backroom team, who immediately are sorting out our set pieces. Love the fact that after the match he passes the credit to Clement for our immediate change of fortunes in this department.

I somehow think honest, passionate, hard working young British managers just suits this club best.  

I really hope this is all sinking in with Moshiri. 

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20 minutes ago, Gwlad all over said:

Good job Ross wasn't there when they did the tests, he'd have struggled😂

To quote the brilliant Peter Cook sketch on the exam to become a miner, "They only ask you one question, they say, 'who are you?' and I got 75% on that."

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Really wasn't impressed with his subs today.

I can understand Gomes to a certain degree because Allan was on a booking and there wasn't anyone else on the bench he could have brought on to play there.

Townsend coming on ahead of El Ghazi was just all wrong for me. We needed to try and stretch Southampton and he's so slow that that was never going to happen. Plus, he's not looked good for a long time anyway.

Dele should have come on for DCL in my opinion. Dom had offered the square root of fuck all (again) and needed to be hooked. Gordon hadn't had the best of games after his bright start but, again, he could have stretched Southampton.

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Just now, Romey 1878 said:

Really wasn't impressed with his subs today.

I can understand Gomes to a certain degree because Allan was on a booking and there wasn't anyone else on the bench he could have brought on to play there.

Townsend coming on ahead of El Ghazi was just all wrong for me. We needed to try and stretch Southampton and he's so slow that that was never going to happen. Plus, he's not looked good for a long time anyway.

Dele should have come on for DCL in my opinion. Dom had offered the square root of fuck all (again) and needed to be hooked. Gordon hadn't had the best of games after his bright start but, again, he could have stretched Southampton.

Yeah I thought the substitutions weren't the best, but also we've seen Gomes come off the bench before and make a real impact, so how was Frank to know he was gonna shit the bed? 

This performance came down to the players today. Bar the first 10 minutes, it was a dismal, pathetic display

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3 minutes ago, dunlopp9987 said:

Yeah I thought the substitutions weren't the best, but also we've seen Gomes come off the bench before and make a real impact, so how was Frank to know he was gonna shit the bed? 

This performance came down to the players today. Bar the first 10 minutes, it was a dismal, pathetic display

I wasn't complaining about the Gomes sub really, he had his hands tied behind his back with that one, as I alluded to.

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18 minutes ago, Romey 1878 said:

Really wasn't impressed with his subs today.

I can understand Gomes to a certain degree because Allan was on a booking and there wasn't anyone else on the bench he could have brought on to play there.

Townsend coming on ahead of El Ghazi was just all wrong for me. We needed to try and stretch Southampton and he's so slow that that was never going to happen. Plus, he's not looked good for a long time anyway.

Dele should have come on for DCL in my opinion. Dom had offered the square root of fuck all (again) and needed to be hooked. Gordon hadn't had the best of games after his bright start but, again, he could have stretched Southampton.

I was expecting Dele to replace DC-L at half-time, but it didn't happen. I can understand subbing Allan: For me, his yellow card was the real turning point of the game. Gomes in midfield almost always results in team malaise.

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