Hafnia Posted December 22, 2019 Report Share Posted December 22, 2019 51 minutes ago, Romey 1878 said: This for me as well. He got pretty much everything wrong yesterday, which is a shame for him, but he's done a superb job under the circumstances and he should be very proud of himself and look forward to what should be a positive future for him. I think we have struggled with an identity crisis for quite some time... we did have a good old guard of Jags, Cahill, Baines, Distin, Howard, Osman .... slowly they evaporated away leaving us at the mercy of expensively acquired players with questionable commitment. Yeah, its great to have a striker who can get 20 goals for the first time in years but when he is sulking, walking, moaning and telling the press he wants to leave it completely undermines everything good about the team. Not just him... schneiderlein lazy in midfield, mirallas taking the ball off baines for a penalty... the spirit that we had with proper professionals went very very quickly. Fans then lose sight of what is actually important.... DCL and Gana getting slated week after week after putting effort in but supposed superstars being afforded an easy ride whilst not giving a shit. I think Big Dunc has seen all this and he had his chance to change things. I've never seen 2 subs get substituted and you know what - it was a joy to behold. Any young Evertoniam would be forgiven for believing that a strikers jib is to wait around for a ball to come to him in the box. It's pissed me off for years and watching those 2 players piss off down the tunnel was the embarrassment they deserve. StevO, AlbanyNYToffee, BigDuncan and 1 other 3 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aidan Posted December 22, 2019 Report Share Posted December 22, 2019 To be fair to Tosun he had played pretty much all of the game at that point minus 10 minutes, he was the worst attacking player on the pitch for us and the one that was least likely to make something to happen. Why on earth Dunc chose him over Bernard or Kean is beyond me. Newty82 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
London Blue Posted December 22, 2019 Report Share Posted December 22, 2019 Cenk was awful and deserved to be subbed. If Dunk didn't sub him then it made a mockery of snubbing Kean. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bailey Posted December 22, 2019 Report Share Posted December 22, 2019 1 minute ago, London Blue said: Cenk was awful and deserved to be subbed. If Dunk didn't sub him then it made a mockery of snubbing Kean. Not really. The situations were completely different. Kean came on, didn't have a fucking clue what he was doing, switched off in a couple of key moments when we were hanging on for a win and then later for a point. Tosun couldn't get into the game because we had no control of the ball. DCL also became almost anonymous for about 40 minutes in the middle of the match because we couldn't get the ball into the strikers and the only reason DCL did get more into the game is because he is a monster from an athletic point of view. Tosun was still doing the basics that would have been asked of him, but he was unable to put his stamp on the game in anyway because the ball barely went near him. It's not like Kean suddenly showed how bad Tosun was when he came on because he had largely the same problems. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlbanyNYToffee Posted December 22, 2019 Report Share Posted December 22, 2019 8 hours ago, Hafnia said: I think we have struggled with an identity crisis for quite some time... we did have a good old guard of Jags, Cahill, Baines, Distin, Howard, Osman .... slowly they evaporated away leaving us at the mercy of expensively acquired players with questionable commitment. Yeah, its great to have a striker who can get 20 goals for the first time in years but when he is sulking, walking, moaning and telling the press he wants to leave it completely undermines everything good about the team. Not just him... schneiderlein lazy in midfield, mirallas taking the ball off baines for a penalty... the spirit that we had with proper professionals went very very quickly. Fans then lose sight of what is actually important.... DCL and Gana getting slated week after week after putting effort in but supposed superstars being afforded an easy ride whilst not giving a shit. I think Big Dunc has seen all this and he had his chance to change things. I've never seen 2 subs get substituted and you know what - it was a joy to behold. Any young Evertoniam would be forgiven for believing that a strikers jib is to wait around for a ball to come to him in the box. It's pissed me off for years and watching those 2 players piss off down the tunnel was the embarrassment they deserve. Brilliant assessment Haf. Hafnia and Bill 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
markjazzbassist Posted December 22, 2019 Report Share Posted December 22, 2019 Lol don carlo, haf you always did have a way with words. arsenal and cup matches proved why dunc needs more learning to be a manager. Tactics were way off and subs just not good. The blood and thunder and big speeeches about the club got some good results but it only goes so far. If he’s able to learn the tactical side of the game more and really work on it I think he could be the future after Carlo if he does well. But if not, I think assistant would be fine for the future. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Finn balor Posted December 22, 2019 Report Share Posted December 22, 2019 I like a good conspiracy theory me. Carlo likes playing 4-4-2 was dunc told to play that formation with the players he had so Carlo could watch for a couple of games and give him an insight? If so that makes dunc even more selfless. Something to think about Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aidan Posted December 22, 2019 Report Share Posted December 22, 2019 1 hour ago, Finn balor said: I like a good conspiracy theory me. Carlo likes playing 4-4-2 was dunc told to play that formation with the players he had so Carlo could watch for a couple of games and give him an insight? If so that makes dunc even more selfless. Something to think about I doubt it. He said he didn't even speak to Ancellotti before we played the game against Arsenal. He did it all his way and deserves credit. Bailey 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Finn balor Posted December 22, 2019 Report Share Posted December 22, 2019 11 minutes ago, Aidan said: I doubt it. He said he didn't even speak to Ancellotti before we played the game against Arsenal. He did it all his way and deserves credit. He also said he had no idea who the new coach was when it was evidently clear he was speaking about Carlo. Jeez Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gwlad Posted December 23, 2019 Report Share Posted December 23, 2019 Thankful for what Dunc has done to restore some pride since Silva went. I think he can learn from Ancelotti in the way Arteta has at City (albeit his big test starts now). He certainly was more suited for the job than Unsy unfortunately. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wiggytop Posted December 23, 2019 Report Share Posted December 23, 2019 8 hours ago, Gwlad all over said: Thankful for what Dunc has done to restore some pride since Silva went. I think he can learn from Ancelotti in the way Arteta has at City (albeit his big test starts now). He certainly was more suited for the job than Unsy unfortunately. Pride is the word, under Marco ( who I liked and wanted him to come here) this season if felt like we were drifting in to a state of “who gives a Fcck” To see Marco standing on the touch line with his hands in pockets passively watching us loose to all three promoted teams, and the rest was horrible, Duncs passion and pride for our club is 100% evident and was felt by the fans again at each of the games. I hope Carlo has seen that and uses Dunc to carry it on for him as Carlo doesn’t strike me as being that demonstrative. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
London Blue Posted December 23, 2019 Report Share Posted December 23, 2019 23 hours ago, Bailey said: Not really. The situations were completely different. Kean came on, didn't have a fucking clue what he was doing, switched off in a couple of key moments when we were hanging on for a win and then later for a point. Tosun couldn't get into the game because we had no control of the ball. DCL also became almost anonymous for about 40 minutes in the middle of the match because we couldn't get the ball into the strikers and the only reason DCL did get more into the game is because he is a monster from an athletic point of view. Tosun was still doing the basics that would have been asked of him, but he was unable to put his stamp on the game in anyway because the ball barely went near him. It's not like Kean suddenly showed how bad Tosun was when he came on because he had largely the same problems. Cenk was awful, I remember him drilling a 30 yard sideways pass so far wide it was laughable, I expect a pro player to make that pass every time. The reason the ball went nowhere nearbhim is because he has no end product. We needed to make a change, he was the worst player on the pitch and just like Kean had to come off. Shukes and Romey 1878 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sev Posted December 23, 2019 Report Share Posted December 23, 2019 Passion, heart and soul. Thank you very much, Dunc. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bailey Posted December 23, 2019 Report Share Posted December 23, 2019 5 hours ago, London Blue said: Cenk was awful, I remember him drilling a 30 yard sideways pass so far wide it was laughable, I expect a pro player to make that pass every time. The reason the ball went nowhere nearbhim is because he has no end product. We needed to make a change, he was the worst player on the pitch and just like Kean had to come off. If it's the pass I am thinking of, it was a pass to Davies but he left it for Sidibe. Sidibe then couldn't make up the ground to stop it going out of play. Plus to pick up Cenk on a pass when the whole team couldn't find a man 5 yards away is a strange one. I don't disagree with the last paragraph. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Finn balor Posted December 23, 2019 Report Share Posted December 23, 2019 Cenk from what I’ve seen on the backstage stuff on efc tv looks a top top fella and gets us as a club. Unfortunately he’s just not quick enough for the premier league Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Romey 1878 Posted December 24, 2019 Report Share Posted December 24, 2019 5 hours ago, Bailey said: If it's the pass I am thinking of, it was a pass to Davies but he left it for Sidibe. Sidibe then couldn't make up the ground to stop it going out of play. Plus to pick up Cenk on a pass when the whole team couldn't find a man 5 yards away is a strange one. I don't disagree with the last paragraph. It’s definitely not the one you’re thinking of. Davies is at full stretch to get it so he definitely wasn’t leaving it for anyone. And it was hit towards the left side of the pitch from the right, so Sidibe wouldn’t have been in the vicinity. Bailey 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shukes Posted December 24, 2019 Report Share Posted December 24, 2019 Cenk is a strange one. He had a couple of good cameos and deserved more chances. Unfortunately he has made a mess of those chances and looked terrible. The sub on the weekend was 100% correct. He was the worst player on the pitch other than Keane. He even made Iwobi looked just below average. Bailey 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
duncanmckenzieismagic Posted February 24, 2021 Report Share Posted February 24, 2021 https://www.liverpoolecho.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/everton-godfrey-holgate-duncan-ferguson-19893916 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikeO Posted February 24, 2021 Report Share Posted February 24, 2021 5 hours ago, duncanmckenzieismagic said: https://www.liverpoolecho.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/everton-godfrey-holgate-duncan-ferguson-19893916 He's never once given me the impression that he's a "hard man" as a coach, quite the opposite. No "myth" to bust imo. Matt and pete0 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gwlad Posted February 24, 2021 Report Share Posted February 24, 2021 He'll do anything for Everton and the boys but not take any stick from gobby Klopp!! MikeO 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Palfy Posted February 24, 2021 Report Share Posted February 24, 2021 My standard bearer for Everton the fight and passion he’s shown for this club from player to manager is exceptional, just a shame we haven’t got a few more like him in the team. Gwlad and Bailey 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikeO Posted March 30, 2021 Report Share Posted March 30, 2021 https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/56564356 Micah Richards: From the videos and how big he is... Stam walked away, Keane walked away. He's got to be number one. He's got the eyes, you wouldn't mess with him. Shearer: I played against him and I played with him. You know when someone has an aura about them. He had a presence when he walked in, the size of him. He had this reputation and he didn't disappoint. If looks could kill, he could kill you with a look. I don't know anyone in the game who doesn't think that about him. You could see the fear in defenders' eyes in the tunnel. To go into battle with him was magnificent. Most defenders were petrified to go near him. He could fight with the best of them, tackle with the best of them. He was unplayable in the air. What a good player he was. He scored an unbelievable half-volley on the turn against Manchester United at St James' Park. He was the hardest. He was frightened of nothing or no-one. pete0 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt Posted March 30, 2021 Report Share Posted March 30, 2021 4 minutes ago, MikeO said: https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/56564356 How does Costa make that list Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
duncanmckenzieismagic Posted March 30, 2021 Report Share Posted March 30, 2021 https://www.chroniclelive.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/newcastle-transfer-dramatic-duncan-ferguson-20276593 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikeO Posted March 30, 2021 Report Share Posted March 30, 2021 Anyone who's been on TT for a while will know I was never his biggest fan as a player, but he's now become emblematic of all that is good about Everton. His heart, has any player embraced the club and loved it more than him ever? And he's gone from being this scary bastard on the pitch to being a loved kind of "best uncle" figure to our kids coming through who he just seems to inspire, very happy the club have seen fit to keep him on through multiple managerial changes. Matt, Romey 1878, barryj and 1 other 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shukes Posted March 30, 2021 Report Share Posted March 30, 2021 I think he was very underrated as a player. People looked at him as just a bully, and that was his own doing. But on his day he scored bullet headers, twenty yarders on the turn, half volleys on the turn. He was an excellent player that never got where his ability warranted due to his fierce reputation and short fuse. Still one of my favourites and always will be, best moment of last season was the equaliser against Leicester in the cup... his celebration was immense. pete0, Matt, London Blue and 1 other 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pete0 Posted March 30, 2021 Report Share Posted March 30, 2021 12 minutes ago, Matt said: How does Costa make that list Apart from Dunc I don't think I'd be intimidated by any of the others that make the list and I'm an overweight nobody. They all just seem to be dirty players rather than hard. Be more scared of the big fuckers like Unsworth, Diop, and Samba. 3 minutes ago, Shukes said: I think he was very underrated as a player. People looked at him as just a bully, and that was his own doing. But on his day he scored bullet headers, twenty yarders on the turn, half volleys on the turn. He was an excellent player that never got where his ability warranted due to his fierce reputation and short fuse. Still one of my favourites and always will be, best moment of last season was the equaliser against Leicester in the cup... his celebration was immense. Vastly underrated but more to his own fault. Missed a lot of football due to niggles, niggles he'd probably not have had if the alcohol wasn't slowing his body from recovering. When fit he proved he was a far better striker than Rio Ferdinand was a defender and he's lauded as world class. Shukes 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bill Posted June 6, 2021 Report Share Posted June 6, 2021 Rumour that Duncan refused an offer to go to Barcelona with Ancellottis backroom staff. Must be well thought of. Has thrown his hat into the ring for the managers job. pete0 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Romey 1878 Posted June 6, 2021 Popular Post Report Share Posted June 6, 2021 6 minutes ago, Bill said: Rumour that Duncan refused an offer to go to Barcelona with Ancellottis backroom staff. Must be well thought of. Has thrown his hat into the ring for the managers job. Bit weird for his backroom staff to go Real Madrid's rivals... . If he wants to be a manager then he should go and earn the right to be a PL manager elsewhere first. The job here would always be available for him if he makes a success of it. Bailey, MikeO, Matt and 3 others 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bill Posted June 6, 2021 Report Share Posted June 6, 2021 My Bad. . https://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-9656823/Duncan-Ferguson-turned-Real-Madrid-role-wants-replace-Carlo-Ancelotti-Everton.html Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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