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26 minutes ago, Bailey said:

Sunderland fans are sad to see him go but they also universally seem to say he isn't anywhere near PL level yet. 

Fuck it Bailey let's have him sent back then, Mackems are twats mate trust me as a Geordie I know more than most on here, I wouldn't be hanging on to every word they say mate. 

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14 minutes ago, Palfy said:

Fuck it Bailey let's have him sent back then, Mackems are twats mate trust me as a Geordie I know more than most on here, I wouldn't be hanging on to every word they say mate. 

He might be not good enough but we need some physicality up front other than put Michael Keane there we are goosed. 

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17 hours ago, Romey 1878 said:

We’ll he’s not in Sunderland’s squad for their game on Sunday, so it looks like desperation has really set in.

I’ll be extremely surprised if he makes any sort of impact here and expect the next half a season to be a waste for him.

I very much hope to be wrong come the end of the season.

In this thread, too, I can't believe the negativity! For months, some have been moaning that we should never have let Simms go on a loan to Sunderland, and now I'm reading that recalling him from that loan is a waste of time. Which is it?

Tell you what, let me counter-balance the double-negative with a double-positive. His loan period has allowed him to develop very nicely, and he'll now come back and put that experience to good use at Goodison.

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1 minute ago, Cornish Steve said:

In this thread, too, I can't believe the negativity! For months, some have been moaning that we should never have let Simms go on a loan to Sunderland, and now I'm reading that recalling him from that loan is a waste of time. Which is it?

Tell you what, let me counter-balance the double-negative with a double-positive. His loan period has allowed him to develop very nicely, and he'll now come back and put that experience to good use at Goodison.

If I'd been one of those moaning about him being loaned out in the first place you'd actually have point.

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8 hours ago, AlbanyNYToffee said:

Just curious can anyone remember the last time we recalled a loan player? Seems exceedingly rare. 

I can’t recall us bringing players back after they’ve done well at the loan club but it’s happened a lot where players aren’t getting enough game time.

I think this makes a lot of sense - he’s essentially taking Rondon’s bench slot and is much further on than Cannon having scored in League 1, Scotland and now the Championship- better than 1 in 3 in all and only 21 (22 next week) - definitely worth a look and if he can’t show anything, I’d guess there’ll be a few clubs in the Championship willing to pay a decent(ish) price.

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One of the Sunderland fans suggested we were recalling him to sell which was something I hadn't considered. I don't think it is likely but the reports are that we are sniffing around other strikers which wouldn't make sense. 

By the end of the window, I am sure the wisdom around this one will be clear to see. 

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2 hours ago, Bailey said:

One of the Sunderland fans suggested we were recalling him to sell which was something I hadn't considered. I don't think it is likely but the reports are that we are sniffing around other strikers which wouldn't make sense. 

By the end of the window, I am sure the wisdom around this one will be clear to see. 

I'm betting before the end of the window  he's already scored 2-4 goals 😊

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I really wanted him to stand out when he came on, and you could see the effort was there. The ball was nothing special…. But it’s the first through ball our team has attempted in a long time. 
 

You can’t rate him on ten minutes. He needs time to get into the game and find his place. 

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