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  • 1 month later...
12 minutes ago, Sibdane said:

Man, what has happened to him? That mistake leading to their goal was schoolboy stuff. 

He makes a lot of mistakes but think his versatility possibly gives him the edge over Keane or Mina to stay. I do think we’ll look for another centre back to replace Keane/Mina (or both) who will partner Godfrey. What works in Holgate’s favour is the fact that he looks better than Keane (in my opinion) in a back 3 and I think Carlo likes that option.

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26 minutes ago, c1982 said:

He makes a lot of mistakes but think his versatility possibly gives him the edge over Keane or Mina to stay. I do think we’ll look for another centre back to replace Keane/Mina (or both) who will partner Godfrey. What works in Holgate’s favour is the fact that he looks better than Keane (in my opinion) in a back 3 and I think Carlo likes that option.

When you say versatility, do you mean his equally as good at making mistakes in every position he plays?

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7 hours ago, Romey 1878 said:

I don't want to see Holgate and Godfrey as a partnership regularly, if at all to be honest. Yes, Holgate was bad but Godfrey wasn't far behind him either.

I think Carlo wanted to play with Holgate and Godfrey a little higher up the pitch and instructed the team to play out from the back. We didn't look comfortable doing either of those things.

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1 hour ago, Aidan said:

I think Carlo wanted to play with Holgate and Godfrey a little higher up the pitch and instructed the team to play out from the back. We didn't look comfortable doing either of those things.

It didn't work in the slightest. Both players are young and still learning the position ffs, so need a more experienced player alongside them. Not to mention Holgate is an idiot and thinks he's far better than he actually is, and has actually looked terrible in the majority of games he's played this season.

Some of Ancelotti's decision-making is baffling.

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41 minutes ago, Romey 1878 said:

Not to mention Holgate is an idiot and thinks he's far better than he actually is, and has actually been found out in the majority of games he's played this season.

Fixed it for you, Villa we’re banking on him doing one of his clever turns and catching him out, which is exactly what happened. 
 

I do think that he’s better than he has been when he stops the clever tricks and plays it simple.

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He did a needless pirouette as last man after his mistake........ I'd have subbed him immediately for that.  

A pure "the mistake doesn't arse me in the slightest" moment.

He is doing the shit that Pickford did and has hopefully grown out of. 

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1 hour ago, MikeO said:

Area isn't an issue, if we have a player who isn't up to scratch they're expendable wherever they play. 

Mason is decent but nothing special and his big "I am" attitude I hate, won't lose any sleep if he goes.

At this point I’d sacrifice anyone if it brings in decent money. We can’t have another season with this squad. 

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19 hours ago, MikeO said:

Area isn't an issue, if we have a player who isn't up to scratch they're expendable wherever they play. 

Mason is decent but nothing special and his big "I am" attitude I hate, won't lose any sleep if he goes.

It leaves us with 3 'first team' CBs in Mina, Keane and Godfrey. I know people spoke about lads coming through but if we get 2 injuries at CB I don't think we have adequate cover.

However I'm not saying I particularly like Holgate as a player.

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7 minutes ago, Btay said:

Saying all the right things. His performances have been better than last year however that’s not saying much. Needs a big year if he is to stay here.

Hotel room at 2.10am and can't sleep, have to leave in an hour and a half anyway; speculatively logs on thinking maybe the upside-down person is around....and there you are:D

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