Hafnia Posted March 5, 2023 Report Share Posted March 5, 2023 On 03/03/2023 at 13:45, Hoof_It_Nev said: Wild theory - Gray hasn't been playing because Dyche has been training him up to be a striker. It's not the maddest idea seeing as he's our top scorer. Square pegs in round holes etc but anything is worth a try at this stage surely. I actually thought that before…. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Formby Posted March 5, 2023 Report Share Posted March 5, 2023 On 03/03/2023 at 13:45, Hoof_It_Nev said: Wild theory - Gray hasn't been playing because Dyche has been training him up to be a striker. It's not the maddest idea seeing as he's our top scorer. Square pegs in round holes etc but anything is worth a try at this stage surely. On 26/02/2023 at 12:57, Formby said: Gray has far more trickery, guile and speed than Maupay. He's also taller. And has a finish. If Dyche isn't going to play Simms as a target man, and Maupay offers nothing, maybe he should look at a way of getting Gray in the box by playing him at CF. Simplify his game. Shoot on sight. Not a wild theory. I thought it the week before and totally agree with you - it worked, as well. Gray is simply a far better footballer than Maupay. Palfy and Matt 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hafnia Posted March 5, 2023 Report Share Posted March 5, 2023 He’s given me optimism. Thought he did well aside the finish at end of first half Palfy, Matt and badaids 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shukes Posted March 6, 2023 Report Share Posted March 6, 2023 I was surprised how he managed to compete physically. He even won a couple of headers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post badaids Posted March 6, 2023 Popular Post Report Share Posted March 6, 2023 It comes down to this: we are more likely to score with Gray on the field than on the bench. He plays. Isaiah, Matt, Formby and 2 others 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt Posted March 6, 2023 Report Share Posted March 6, 2023 16 minutes ago, badaids said: It comes down to this: we are more likely to score with Gray on the field than on the bench. He plays. Not to mention scoring on his return to the starting lineup. Penalty sure but with the importance of every goal very clear to everyone, he took it cool and calm. He just needs to start and should've been over Maupay since the second game. Formby 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Btay Posted March 7, 2023 Report Share Posted March 7, 2023 Has to play over Maupay. They offer a similar ability to link up but Grays pace in behind is dangerous, plus he is probably a better finisher. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Palfy Posted March 8, 2023 Report Share Posted March 8, 2023 2 hours ago, Btay said: Has to play over Maupay. They offer a similar ability to link up but Grays pace in behind is dangerous, plus he is probably a better finisher. No probably about it. Formby, Wiggytop and Matt 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Romey 1878 Posted March 8, 2023 Author Report Share Posted March 8, 2023 7 hours ago, Palfy said: No probably about it. I paid close attention to Maupay in the warm-up against Villa and the lad could finish then. He was beating the keeper most times and slotting it into both corners. I knew when it came to the game he'd fluff any chance and that's exactly what happened . He had a chance almost identical to what he'd been doing in the warm-up and hit it right at Martinez. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wiggytop Posted March 8, 2023 Report Share Posted March 8, 2023 10 hours ago, Romey 1878 said: I paid close attention to Maupay in the warm-up against Villa and the lad could finish then. He was beating the keeper most times and slotting it into both corners. I knew when it came to the game he'd fluff any chance and that's exactly what happened . He had a chance almost identical to what he'd been doing in the warm-up and hit it right at Martinez. I watched him closely also, he was finishing really well in the practice, in the match shits the bed, surely it’s a confidence thing, a goal then some game time would do him the world of good. Romey 1878 and Matt 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Romey 1878 Posted June 1, 2023 Author Report Share Posted June 1, 2023 He’s been called up to Jamaica’s Gold Cup squad. Matt and London Blue 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt Posted June 2, 2023 Report Share Posted June 2, 2023 8 hours ago, Romey 1878 said: He’s been called up to Jamaica’s Gold Cup squad. Oh good, puts him in the window. Think he'll be moved on. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Btay Posted June 2, 2023 Report Share Posted June 2, 2023 1 hour ago, Matt said: Oh good, puts him in the window. Think he'll be moved on. Or at worst he becomes a squad player here and we get a better winger… Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt Posted June 2, 2023 Report Share Posted June 2, 2023 54 minutes ago, Btay said: Or at worst he becomes a squad player here and we get a better winger… I'd rather he stayed but he's been treated as a last resort by Dyche and he would command a decent fee. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Btay Posted June 2, 2023 Report Share Posted June 2, 2023 1 hour ago, Matt said: I'd rather he stayed but he's been treated as a last resort by Dyche and he would command a decent fee. Agreed, I think Dyche just went the 11 he trusted to the most to work hard. At the end of the day he trusted Gray on the final day when he had a couple of other options. Hope he stays as an impact sub or squad player. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt Posted June 2, 2023 Report Share Posted June 2, 2023 1 hour ago, Btay said: Agreed, I think Dyche just went the 11 he trusted to the most to work hard. At the end of the day he trusted Gray on the final day when he had a couple of other options. Hope he stays as an impact sub or squad player. Ahead of Maupay and Simms though, so I think it was still last resort Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bailey Posted June 2, 2023 Report Share Posted June 2, 2023 Still think we needed to sell him when his stock was at its highest. His value is only going down at the moment. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt Posted June 2, 2023 Report Share Posted June 2, 2023 Just now, Bailey said: Still think we needed to sell him when his stock was at its highest. His value is only going down at the moment. That's why I'm happy he's going to a competition. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Fosse Captain Posted June 3, 2023 Popular Post Report Share Posted June 3, 2023 In fairness he's probably been one of the best value transfers we've had for a while. Is he amazing? nope could he stop trying to beat 3 players every time? yes But for less than £2 million, he's scored a few goals in the hardest league in the world, in a shit team, and played out of position too. Wish he would be more direct and beat his man (just the once) as he has the pace and ability to put defenders on the back foot. Much like ASM at Newcastle. Problem is he's also like ASM in that he's incredibly inconsistent to the point of infuriating. Worth keeping, and its not like there's an orderly queue being formed anyway, so a moot point London Blue, Vranny, Palfy and 2 others 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shukes Posted June 3, 2023 Report Share Posted June 3, 2023 Worth keeping as a bench game changer. He is possibly the only player we have that can change a game on his own. Matt, Formby and Fosse Captain 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Formby Posted June 3, 2023 Report Share Posted June 3, 2023 6 hours ago, Fosse Captain said: In fairness he's probably been one of the best value transfers we've had for a while. Is he amazing? nope could he stop trying to beat 3 players every time? yes But for less than £2 million, he's scored a few goals in the hardest league in the world, in a shit team, and played out of position too. Wish he would be more direct and beat his man (just the once) as he has the pace and ability to put defenders on the back foot. Much like ASM at Newcastle. Problem is he's also like ASM in that he's incredibly inconsistent to the point of infuriating. Worth keeping, and its not like there's an orderly queue being formed anyway, so a moot point Excellent post. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Romey 1878 Posted June 10, 2023 Author Report Share Posted June 10, 2023 https://www.skysports.com/football/news/11095/12899837/demarai-gray-fulham-keen-on-everton-forward Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt Posted June 10, 2023 Report Share Posted June 10, 2023 We'd be daft to let him go in our current financial state. StevO 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Romey 1878 Posted June 10, 2023 Author Popular Post Report Share Posted June 10, 2023 1 minute ago, Matt said: We'd be daft to let him go in our current financial state. We could use Gray's saved wages to give Davies more so he will definitely sign that contract. Win win. dunlopp9987, Elston Gunnn, Newty82 and 3 others 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
c1982 Posted June 10, 2023 Report Share Posted June 10, 2023 29 minutes ago, Matt said: We'd be daft to let him go in our current financial state. I disagree - I don’t know if any prices are being banded about but say if a £15-20m bid came in, that’d pretty much all be profit so would give us some real wiggle room to get ‘specialist’ players in. I like Gray but he’s not going to play as a winger in a Dyche team and he’s an okay striker or 2nd striker in my opinion. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Palfy Posted June 10, 2023 Report Share Posted June 10, 2023 I think Silva is a manager who recognises players with abilities and wants to play football on the ground from back to front, so Fulham would be a great move for Gray and the money would help Dyche to buy a replacement who plays to his style because Gray definitely doesn’t fit what he wants from his players hard work before ability. So a good move for both teams and player if it comes off. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt Posted June 10, 2023 Report Share Posted June 10, 2023 2 hours ago, c1982 said: I disagree - I don’t know if any prices are being banded about but say if a £15-20m bid came in, that’d pretty much all be profit so would give us some real wiggle room to get ‘specialist’ players in. I like Gray but he’s not going to play as a winger in a Dyche team and he’s an okay striker or 2nd striker in my opinion. Profit to then gamble away though. I get the argument but when you then have to give chunks of that to agents for average players too, its wasted money. StevO 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Palfy Posted June 10, 2023 Report Share Posted June 10, 2023 15 minutes ago, Matt said: Profit to then gamble away though. I get the argument but when you then have to give chunks of that to agents for average players too, its wasted money. Your right our success rate in the market has been pretty dire so all buys seem to be a bigger gamble with us than most, I personally rate Gray and if down to me would keep him and play him more. Our problem being I don’t really think Dyche sees him in the same way, so best to sell and get someone in Dyche rates than have 15mil or whatever he’s worth keeping the bench warm. Just another thought his wages are quite low compared to some others in the team so something to think about there if we sell and replace. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Goodison Glory Posted June 10, 2023 Report Share Posted June 10, 2023 39 minutes ago, Matt said: Profit to then gamble away though. I get the argument but when you then have to give chunks of that to agents for average players too, its wasted money. Agent fees are capped from this year and are severely limited (vs prior...I'm not saying they're in the poor house ). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt Posted June 10, 2023 Report Share Posted June 10, 2023 15 minutes ago, Goodison Glory said: Agent fees are capped from this year and are severely limited (vs prior...I'm not saying they're in the poor house ). Capped isn't removed, it's still wasted money Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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