Bailey Posted September 7, 2022 Report Share Posted September 7, 2022 2 hours ago, patto said: It’s only 7 games I think he’s a good coach very attack minded. I disagree. He certainly has qualities as a coach but Chelsea are playing crap football, its very defensive (it contains but doesnt create) and a huge chunk of their chances come from defensive players. I think his football completely stifles attacking players. I think the writing has been on the wall there for a good 6-9 months and the team have got progressively worse in that time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
patto Posted September 7, 2022 Report Share Posted September 7, 2022 9 minutes ago, Bailey said: I disagree. He certainly has qualities as a coach but Chelsea are playing crap football, its very defensive (it contains but doesnt create) and a huge chunk of their chances come from defensive players. I think his football completely stifles attacking players. I think the writing has been on the wall there for a good 6-9 months and the team have got progressively worse in that time. If we had someone taking us to 3 finals in 12 months he would never be sacked. Shukes 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikeO Posted September 7, 2022 Report Share Posted September 7, 2022 4 minutes ago, patto said: If we had someone taking us to 3 finals in 12 months he would never be sacked. Very different expectations though, so a bit of a daft comparison. Bailey 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
patto Posted September 8, 2022 Report Share Posted September 8, 2022 12 hours ago, MikeO said: Very different expectations though, so a bit of a daft comparison. The only thing that’s daft is you fishing again. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RuffRob Posted September 8, 2022 Report Share Posted September 8, 2022 It might turn out to be a blessing in discuss that Lampard's Everton have not been putting loads of points on the board just yet. keeps other team's from sniffing around him. I think we can all see he is quietly going about improving us in a steady and considered manner - even if we are not getting instant spectacular results. Just like Gordon, I think Everton is a good club for Lampard at this time in his career. He is obviously intelligent and hardworking, knows he is also still learning the management trade and is flexible in his approach and he is a good man-manager. I think he has assembled a well throughout out support staff, and I can also seeing he is involved in bringing in a similarly well thought out playing staff also. We are a good fit right now. I feel something of substance is being done at the club now, rather than scatter gun quick fix approach. Chelsea are brutal in how they are with their managers - They need a proven manager who can as near as instantly turn a collection of great players in to a great team. That is not Frank Lampard at this moment in his career. This group of players Chelsea players can look at a Potter type in that dressing room and instantly think to themselves "what have you ever won!!" when he starts dishing out any instructions or orders they don't like. I agree with most that he is not the right profile for them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikeO Posted September 8, 2022 Report Share Posted September 8, 2022 1 hour ago, patto said: The only thing that’s daft is you fishing again. So in your opinion the Everton board and fans should have the same level of expectation in terms of trophies as Chelsea's? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bill Posted September 8, 2022 Report Share Posted September 8, 2022 22 minutes ago, MikeO said: So in your opinion the Everton board and fans should have the same level of expectation in terms of trophies as Chelsea's? If they don't, there's something wrong. Should our expectation's be to finish 16 or 17th every year. ? patto 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikeO Posted September 8, 2022 Report Share Posted September 8, 2022 2 minutes ago, Bill said: If they don't, there's something wrong. Should our expectation's be to finish 16 or 17th every year. ? Obviously in an ideal world we'd be fighting at the top of the league every season and have high expectations, but the reality is that we're not, and won't be in the near future. Our aspiration at the moment should be to improve year on year; trophies are pie in the sky at the mo. StevO and Matt 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikeO Posted September 8, 2022 Report Share Posted September 8, 2022 4 hours ago, RPG said: Well, we aren't going to win the league but we could go deep into the Cup competitions and maybe win a cup trophy. Didn't Wigan 'manage' to win the FA Cup and get relegated in the same season? Mid table finish in the league and who knows what might happen in the cups is my hope and expectation. I am confident that the longer the season goes on, the better we will be and that we will finish the season feeling that we are better than our final placing (whatever it is) and that may well give us an edge in the later stages of the cups as we run into form while the big 6 suffer the usual fixture congestion. I do agree that continued, steady progress is most important but I don't see that as a bar to winning a trophy. It would also help with our summer recruitment if we could offer European soccer next season. I'd suggest the gap between the "big" six and the rest has got wider in the last ten seasons; since Wigan won our domestic cups have been won by.. City 7 Arsenal 4 Liverpool 2 United 2 Chelsea 2 ...with just Leicester breaking the mould. Of course we should aspire to win every game we play, but I just think it's daft to compare our trophy winning expectations with Chelsea's. Expectations being the operative word. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikeO Posted September 8, 2022 Report Share Posted September 8, 2022 4 hours ago, RPG said: I can see both sides here. Realistically, logically, scientifically, yes, you are correct. But the magic of the FA Cup is such that teams like Wigan, Leicester etc can, and do win it. When we won it in 1984, we finished the league season strongly (7th if memory serves) after a mediocre first half of the season (we lost 9 league games up to the end of Dec 83 and only 3 more all season - I just checked) and I can see the potential in the squad that is being assembled at Everton right now to show a similar improvement this season. What I really expect from this season is for it to leave us feeling excited and confident for next season. A good cup run would help. Winning a cup would be fantastic. If the draw was kind enough to give us a Stoke, Gillingham, Shrewsbury, Notts County, Southampton and Watford route to the cup again we'd be in with a fighting chance. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post MikeO Posted September 8, 2022 Popular Post Report Share Posted September 8, 2022 1 minute ago, RPG said: That's the beauty of the Cup though isn't it. We may get that kind of draw. Our name might be on the cup. We may indeed, my point all along though is that winning trophies isn't something we should (just yet) be expecting. Chelsea do expect trophies and sack managers even after they've won them. Palfy, Matt, Sibdane and 3 others 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gwlad Posted September 8, 2022 Report Share Posted September 8, 2022 2 hours ago, MikeO said: If the draw was kind enough to give us a Stoke, Gillingham, Shrewsbury, Notts County, Sothampton and Watford route to the cup again we'd be in with a fighting chance. Hope you are the TT soothsayer, Mike Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikeO Posted September 8, 2022 Report Share Posted September 8, 2022 1 hour ago, Gwlad all over said: Hope you are the TT soothsayer, Mike Gwlad 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gwlad Posted September 18, 2022 Report Share Posted September 18, 2022 Can't fault his engaging with the fans at the end. Does seem to be genuine with everything he says and does. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Zoo 2.0 Posted September 18, 2022 Popular Post Report Share Posted September 18, 2022 1 hour ago, Gwlad all over said: Can't fault his engaging with the fans at the end. Does seem to be genuine with everything he says and does. The media loving it too, "Frank Lampard there doing a Jürgen Klopp!". Absolute cringe buckets they are. Those from outside don't understand why we love Lampard so much, those inside need no explanation. London Blue, Fosse Captain, Gwlad and 2 others 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Romey 1878 Posted September 18, 2022 Report Share Posted September 18, 2022 Looked very dapper in his suit today. Btay 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Btay Posted September 19, 2022 Report Share Posted September 19, 2022 9 hours ago, Romey 1878 said: Looked very dapper in his suit today. Loved him ripping the tie off straight away. Romey 1878 and London Blue 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spoon Posted September 19, 2022 Report Share Posted September 19, 2022 Got no complaints so far with him. First manager we have had for a while that seems to really get something out of our players and has me looking forward to the next game in anticipation. Sure there will be hicups on the way but so far this season I have seen some progress (small but progress none the less) London Blue, Matt and StevO 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gwlad Posted September 19, 2022 Report Share Posted September 19, 2022 I just love that there is true optimism about the place. Frank and team seem to have a coherent plan and have got the players on board. I feel the most positive about my beloved Blues than I have for - probably -years. Hope he is happy to stay with us given that Christine and family are in London. badaids, AlbanyNYToffee and London Blue 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hafnia Posted September 19, 2022 Report Share Posted September 19, 2022 He gave Ashley Cole credit for our defensive improvement from set pieces. I was excited at the prospect of Cole joining the back room staff…. Surely Patterson and mykolenko are also reaping the benefits. KinL and London Blue 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gwlad Posted September 19, 2022 Report Share Posted September 19, 2022 Cole does look very enthusiastic in the training videos we see. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
badaids Posted September 20, 2022 Report Share Posted September 20, 2022 16 hours ago, Gwlad all over said: I just love that there is true optimism about the place. Frank and team seem to have a coherent plan and have got the players on board. I feel the most positive about my beloved Blues than I have for - probably -years. Hope he is happy to stay with us given that Christine and family are in London. I was just thinking that we seem to have some proper personality in both ndividual players and team at the minute. Been years since we could say that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Btay Posted September 20, 2022 Popular Post Report Share Posted September 20, 2022 15 hours ago, Hafnia said: He gave Ashley Cole credit for our defensive improvement from set pieces. I was excited at the prospect of Cole joining the back room staff…. Surely Patterson and mykolenko are also reaping the benefits. Not sure if it’s been mentioned on site yet & apologies if it has. We have faced 66 corners this season & only conceded 1 goal. Unbelievable improvement. Hafnia, plaidharper, Matt and 6 others 9 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StevO Posted September 20, 2022 Author Report Share Posted September 20, 2022 6 hours ago, Btay said: Not sure if it’s been mentioned on site yet & apologies if it has. We have faced 66 corners this season & only conceded 1 goal. Unbelievable improvement. The next step… stop conceding so many corners! Matt, Vranny, KinL and 1 other 1 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Btay Posted September 20, 2022 Report Share Posted September 20, 2022 54 minutes ago, StevO said: The next step… stop conceding so many corners! Either that or become clinical on the counter with them StevO, Matt and London Blue 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
London Blue Posted September 20, 2022 Report Share Posted September 20, 2022 29 minutes ago, Btay said: Either that or become clinical on the counter with them Make teams afraid to win a corner against us Btay, Romey 1878 and dunlopp9987 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Romey 1878 Posted September 20, 2022 Report Share Posted September 20, 2022 11 minutes ago, London Blue said: Make teams afraid to win a corner against us Beats feeling terrified of being hit on the counter when we have a corner like I've felt the past few years! Btay 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
London Blue Posted September 20, 2022 Report Share Posted September 20, 2022 4 minutes ago, Romey 1878 said: Beats feeling terrified of being hit on the counter when we have a corner like I've felt the past few years! We have conceded so many corners this season, and (for the most part) defended them really well that the fear has been reduced. Corner Immersion Therapy I guess Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spoon Posted September 20, 2022 Report Share Posted September 20, 2022 11 hours ago, London Blue said: We have conceded so many corners this season, and (for the most part) defended them really well that the fear has been reduced. Corner Immersion Therapy I guess Now if we can only learn to score from the corners we get, then the therapy would be complete. Unfortunately we dont look like scoring from them at the moment. Matt and StevO 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shukes Posted September 21, 2022 Report Share Posted September 21, 2022 Said it before. On our corners…. Pick the ball up, throw it o to the crowd and all sprint back into position. That will give us time to set up again. StevO 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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