Matt Posted August 17, 2016 Report Share Posted August 17, 2016 I've said it elsewhere, but Zidane said James isn't going anywhere Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bailey Posted August 17, 2016 Report Share Posted August 17, 2016 for me Joel has proven himself. Each time he came in he made a big difference. I know he's error prone but who isn't? The lad needs a full season under his belt, I think he'll prove many wrong I don't think he is, I've always thought he was quite solid with a lot of potential and rated him even when he was at Wigan. No 'keeper is ever going to look good without a decent run out and without a decent defence in front of him. De Gea looked a joke for the first 3-4 months of his United career, from what I remember, but he blossomed as he settled. Joel was his understudy up to u21s (if I remember correctly) so there's a player in there. He's been given 42 starts over 3 seasons with us with the longest run last season in a team that leaked goals for fun and had the confidence of a deflated snail. Completely agree that he needs game time. His shot stopping is excellent (bar that 1 free kick last season!) but his ability to claim the ball and dominate his area worry me a lot and that is the area that will improve most with games. At the moment I dont think he is good enough to be our number 1 but at the same time I dont think he is any worse than Stekelenberg. I hope we do get a new number 1, even if it is on loan, and the Joel can go out on loan and get a full season under his belt. Sibdane 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sibdane Posted August 17, 2016 Report Share Posted August 17, 2016 My thoughts exactly. He's still young enough to improve, and keepers usually hit their prime later than other positions, but right now we need someone better. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cornish Steve Posted August 17, 2016 Report Share Posted August 17, 2016 Steve, we have money to spend. Why chose between an outfield player and goalkeeper? We can have both. We need to forget the mentality that we need to watch the pennies. Moshiri wants to throw money around to strengthen the squad. Rich people are rich because they spend wisely. Few rich people I know throw money around. Ask any Uber driver which riders never tip! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikeO Posted August 17, 2016 Report Share Posted August 17, 2016 Rich people are rich because they spend wisely. Few rich people I know throw money around. Ask any Uber driver which riders never tip! Had to google Uber but the point is spot on. My second job as a kid was at a petrol station "pumping gas" (no do it yourself back then) and we did oil/water/tyre pressure checks as well; Rolls/Jags pulled in and asked for the works, never gave a tip. Knackered old Hillman Imp driver was far more likely to give you something. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
markjazzbassist Posted August 17, 2016 Report Share Posted August 17, 2016 Had to google Uber but the point is spot on. My second job as a kid was at a petrol station "pumping gas" (no do it yourself back then) and we did oil/water/tyre pressure checks as well; Rolls/Jags pulled in and asked for the works, never gave a tip. Knackered old Hillman Imp driver was far more likely to give you something. which is another reason we should tax those bastards to death, greedy, not willing to share, no thanks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cornish Steve Posted August 17, 2016 Report Share Posted August 17, 2016 which is another reason we should tax those bastards to death, greedy, not willing to share, no thanks. Wow - you changed your tune on Moshiri. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
markjazzbassist Posted August 17, 2016 Report Share Posted August 17, 2016 (edited) Wow - you changed your tune on Moshiri. the tax rate in england is a lot higher than the US, he's paying his fair share. in the US the rich use loop holes to pay less in taxes than i do and i'm middle class. which proves my above point about them being greedy bastards even more. Edited August 17, 2016 by markjazzbassist Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoeQuince Posted August 18, 2016 Report Share Posted August 18, 2016 the tax rate in england is a lot higher than the US, he's paying his fair share. in the US the rich use loop holes to pay less in taxes than i do and i'm middle class. which proves my above point about them being greedy bastards even more. The mega rich all over the world also have resources like people who know how and where to move their money, what form to keep it in, and how to access it without paying a lick of taxes. Capital isn't fixed in place. You and I use regular old banks and invest at a small level within one country. Moshiri has "assets" throughout the world in several forms, and he can pay people to keep him losing very little in taxation. The rich tend to be rich because of their networks, having the right last name or alma mater, and, well, because they started life at the top. We can always point to the Horatio Algers of the world as examples of meritocracy working and that social mobility is easy with a little hard work and frugality. But, generally, "self-made man" myths work to perpetuate a culture of blaming the poor for their own poverty rather than explain why the well-to-do are well-to-do. (I'm gearing up to start teaching another 3 sections of Intro to Sociology next week hahaha) nyblue23 and Romey 1878 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
markjazzbassist Posted August 18, 2016 Report Share Posted August 18, 2016 The mega rich all over the world also have resources like people who know how and where to move their money, what form to keep it in, and how to access it without paying a lick of taxes. Capital isn't fixed in place. You and I use regular old banks and invest at a small level within one country. Moshiri has "assets" throughout the world in several forms, and he can pay people to keep him losing very little in taxation. The rich tend to be rich because of their networks, having the right last name or alma mater, and, well, because they started life at the top. We can always point to the Horatio Algers of the world as examples of meritocracy working and that social mobility is easy with a little hard work and frugality. But, generally, "self-made man" myths work to perpetuate a culture of blaming the poor for their own poverty rather than explain why the well-to-do are well-to-do. (I'm gearing up to start teaching another 3 sections of Intro to Sociology next week hahaha) Preach brother preach, I'm with you nutmegwolf203 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StevO Posted August 18, 2016 Report Share Posted August 18, 2016 The loop holes in the UK are wide open!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FloridaToffee Posted August 18, 2016 Report Share Posted August 18, 2016 the tax rate in england is a lot higher than the US, he's paying his fair share. in the US the rich use loop holes to pay less in taxes than i do and i'm middle class. which proves my above point about them being greedy bastards even more. I would much rather them use charity as a loophole then pay more in taxes, regardless of intention. I trust the government far less with those tax dollars than anyone else MikeO 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoeQuince Posted August 18, 2016 Report Share Posted August 18, 2016 I would much rather them use charity as a loophole then pay more in taxes, regardless of intention. I trust the government far less with those tax dollars than anyone else Problem is (and studies have shown this) that big money tends to flow to the same charities, usually ones run by other elites within the networks of the wealthy, rather than to causes where the money is sorely needed. markjazzbassist 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dlblue Posted August 19, 2016 Report Share Posted August 19, 2016 Back to this transfer window Spending £30m on a top goal keeper would be a great move in my eyes. Look at how many points we have lost over the last few seasons due to GK Errors. I think a new keeper is as much of a priority as any other position. Lowensda 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lowensda Posted August 19, 2016 Report Share Posted August 19, 2016 Back to this transfer window Spending £30m on a top goal keeper would be a great move in my eyes. Look at how many points we have lost over the last few seasons due to GK Errors. I think a new keeper is as much of a priority as any other position. Completely agree. dlblue 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lowensda Posted August 19, 2016 Report Share Posted August 19, 2016 https://twitter.com/realdaletrump/status/766540363674726400 hmmmm....interesting observations. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marcopaulo Posted August 19, 2016 Report Share Posted August 19, 2016 I got confused for a second then...lukaku doesn't look well Romey 1878, London Blue and Lowensda 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
London Blue Posted August 19, 2016 Report Share Posted August 19, 2016 I got confused for a second then...lukaku doesn't look well It looks like he has mange. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
markjazzbassist Posted August 19, 2016 Report Share Posted August 19, 2016 it's the leicester lineup with everton names. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Romey 1878 Posted August 19, 2016 Report Share Posted August 19, 2016 (edited) I got confused for a second then...lukaku doesn't look well I kept looking at it thinking "why the fuck are our players in Leicester shirts?!" Edited August 19, 2016 by Romey 1878 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Newty82 Posted August 19, 2016 Report Share Posted August 19, 2016 it's the leicester lineup with everton names. Behave Mark ffs. Are you being serious feeling the need to point that out?!!! markjazzbassist and Bailey 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Newty82 Posted August 19, 2016 Report Share Posted August 19, 2016 I got confused for a second then...lukaku doesn't look well Ha. I thought at first they'd made a cock up leaving Schmeichel face in place of Harts. Then I clicked.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
markjazzbassist Posted August 19, 2016 Report Share Posted August 19, 2016 Behave Mark ffs. Are you being serious feeling the need to point that out?!!! ? i was helping the confused lad. had too much protein drink and pre workout? a little edgy today newts lad Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Newty82 Posted August 19, 2016 Report Share Posted August 19, 2016 ? i was helping the confused lad. had too much protein drink and pre workout? a little edgy today newts lad Don't use pre workout. But anyway...I know you mean well but it really didn't need pointing out. That's all. Thanks for clearing it up though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MC11 Posted August 19, 2016 Report Share Posted August 19, 2016 Behave Mark ffs. Are you being serious feeling the need to point that out?!!! Wind it in Newt. markjazzbassist 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bailey Posted August 19, 2016 Report Share Posted August 19, 2016 I was going to take the piss as well Mark but Newty beat me to it! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
duncanmckenzieismagic Posted August 19, 2016 Report Share Posted August 19, 2016 http://www.hitc.com/en-gb/2016/08/19/am-a-move-to-everton-from-crystal-palace-could-see-cabaye-flouri/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
markjazzbassist Posted August 19, 2016 Report Share Posted August 19, 2016 http://www.hitc.com/en-gb/2016/08/19/am-a-move-to-everton-from-crystal-palace-could-see-cabaye-flouri/ would love him here, was a big fan of his at newcastle and PSG and last season on that shit palace side. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Newty82 Posted August 19, 2016 Report Share Posted August 19, 2016 I was going to take the piss as well Mark but Newty beat me to it! The opportunity was there, wasn't it?! That door was left wide open!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Newty82 Posted August 19, 2016 Report Share Posted August 19, 2016 Wind it in Newt. I will Sir, I will. I promise. I so so promise. (I see you're still a twat) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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