Romey 1878 Posted February 1, 2021 Report Share Posted February 1, 2021 1 minute ago, MikeO said: By fax? Pigeon. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Palfy Posted February 1, 2021 Report Share Posted February 1, 2021 1 minute ago, MikeO said: With the wages we pay mediocre players I’m not surprised. barryj, Hafnia and Btay 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Romey 1878 Posted February 1, 2021 Popular Post Report Share Posted February 1, 2021 I like this take on it duncanmckenzieismagic, markjazzbassist, SpartyBlue and 7 others 10 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SpartyBlue Posted February 2, 2021 Report Share Posted February 2, 2021 1 hour ago, Romey 1878 said: I like this take on it This. Smart deal. Puts him in a situation where he will me highly motivated and keeps our options completely open for the summer while getting a versatile, experienced player as backup. Nice work. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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nyblue23 Posted February 2, 2021 Report Share Posted February 2, 2021 Do not like and hope to be proven wrong. He can barely get a start in the championship. I understand our options are limited given that whoever comes knows they'll be playing behind DCL/Richy/James but this doesn't feel like it's any kind of answer. Happy it's only 6 months. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
markjazzbassist Posted February 2, 2021 Report Share Posted February 2, 2021 Very happy. It’s likely 5m if we win the league. Which we will be fine with if we do so. Fee and length are great. I like king and wanted him a couple years back. He always played well against us. now we have proper completion for Richarlison and can have a real option off the bench. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Btay Posted February 2, 2021 Report Share Posted February 2, 2021 As long as he puts in effort and can show some ability I’m happy. Definitely an option off the bench. Will get behind him no doubt. Matt and markjazzbassist 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dunlopp9987 Posted February 2, 2021 Report Share Posted February 2, 2021 33 minutes ago, markjazzbassist said: Very happy. It’s likely 5m if we win the league. Which we will be fine with if we do so. Fee and length are great. I like king and wanted him a couple years back. He always played well against us. now we have proper completion for Richarlison and can have a real option off the bench. You don't say Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cornish Steve Posted February 2, 2021 Report Share Posted February 2, 2021 I'd venture to say this move has less to do with King as an individual player and more to do with a finding a player who'll fit into our team and its developing structure. King's excellent at finding good positions in and around the box, so I can see DC-L benefiting from his presence. Rather than count the number of goals King scores, I'd gauge success more by how many additional goals DC-L scores. And yes, we now have cover should DC-L get injured. Wiggytop and badaids 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Palfy Posted February 2, 2021 Report Share Posted February 2, 2021 I’m curious as to how we will play him has he come as cover for DCL or to take his place, or play left or right of DCL, or are we going to change the formation with 2 up front. I have a feeling he’s going to go up top in a 443 DCL isn’t hitting the highs of earlier in the season and could be about to pay the price for his lack of goals in the last 6 or so games. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post duncanmckenzieismagic Posted February 2, 2021 Author Popular Post Report Share Posted February 2, 2021 53 minutes ago, Palfy said: I’m curious as to how we will play him has he come as cover for DCL or to take his place, or play left or right of DCL, or are we going to change the formation with 2 up front. I have a feeling he’s going to go up top in a 443 DCL isn’t hitting the highs of earlier in the season and could be about to pay the price for his lack of goals in the last 6 or so games. DCLs lack of goals have more to do with the way the team has been playing for the past couple of months rather than his personal form. We could have had Messi up there but if we aren’t attacking teams or creating chances he isn’t going to score DCL has been instructed to be a predator playing between the posts and with the absences of Coleman, Digne and James coupled with the poor form of Richarlison the supply line has dried up I think a few people are going to be pleasantly surprised by this lad his lack of goals/ appearances for Bournemouth this season have been because he was in dispute with the club as he wanted out rather than his lack of ability . He is a better option at CF than Tosun and far more effective than either Bernard or Gordon out wide and I think the short term deal gives him a point to prove so I don’t see what’s to like I was chatting to a mate about him l, who is a Bournemouth fan, lay nigh and he had nothing but good things to say about him and rates him as highly as Callum Wilson I can see him starting in a front 3 with DCL and Richarlison with us moving James inside StevO, markjazzbassist, Romey 1878 and 2 others 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt Posted February 2, 2021 Report Share Posted February 2, 2021 8 hours ago, duncanmckenzieismagic said: To put it into perspective What, that he can’t score either? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hafnia Posted February 2, 2021 Report Share Posted February 2, 2021 What I do like about this signing, similar to Godfrey is that we've got a player from supposed lower levels coming into our setup which has consisted of lazy mercenaries who think they are above the work ethic required to compete. I'm talking about Gylfi, Gomes, Delph, Tosun etc. Godfrey has been a breath of fresh air and this lad will too. He is gambling on himself and good on him. He's clearly very smart as he probably knows that our club is desperate for players who don't fuck about and put a shift in. I see this lad as a similar type signing to Marcus bent, someone who will positively impact those around him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wiggytop Posted February 2, 2021 Report Share Posted February 2, 2021 I’m happy he’s here, we don’t seem to have rushed out and bought anyone who was available, not many good deals are done in the winter window, there seems to be a plan in our player purchases, he can play a number of positions and has the chance to prove himself and get a long term deal if he does or elsewhere if it doesn’t work out. It’s not the big name signing we were hoping for but who would you rather have for the rest of the season, King or Tosun who has failed to make the grade yet still remains on our books? Decent bit of business imo. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
badaids Posted February 2, 2021 Report Share Posted February 2, 2021 He’s a good signing at this stage. He might start a few and score a few, and I’ll be much happier to see him coming off the bench than Bernard, Gordon or Tosun. Not the most exciting signing, but a pragmatic one. London Blue, AlbanyNYToffee and Wiggytop 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bill Posted February 2, 2021 Report Share Posted February 2, 2021 Im not excited by this one bit. People are quoting 56 goals in 168 games for Bournemouth, that's in the last five years but seeing that there is 38 game a season that works out at about 5 or 6 goals a season. The previous 5 seasons he did even worse. His eleven year career works out at about 3 goals a season so forgive me if I don't get excited about him. More dead wood, tho I'm hoping to be proved wrong. Edit ….... The figures are even worse than those stated its 48 goals in 173 games. His eleven year career is only 56 goals, scroll to the bottom of the link. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Joshua_King_(footballer) nyblue23 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dunlopp9987 Posted February 2, 2021 Report Share Posted February 2, 2021 If nothing else, he'll fill the "most-divisive-player" hole that was left by Gana Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bailey Posted February 2, 2021 Report Share Posted February 2, 2021 15 hours ago, Matt said: Absolutely the opposite for me. Don’t get me wrong, glad he’s coming in but the more I think about this, it’s a relatively expensive gamble which shows panic rather than thought out. I'll give you that, it is a weird financial deal, or at least it will look that way on the books. As others have said though, it is better than being left with dead wood we cannot shift, especially as he isn't young anymore. I also don't think he is a gamble. He is a proven PL performer who came through the Utd academy. Even if it doesn't work out, it is less of a gamble than signing someone like Tosun on a 4-5 year deal who hasn't kicked a ball in the league. I am looking forward to seeing him play. If him, Richie and DCL play up top one game it will be one of the most powerful attacks in the league, or maybe even in football. Matt and MikeO 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
barryj Posted February 2, 2021 Report Share Posted February 2, 2021 I think this deal shows that we have finally learnt from our previous mistakes. Also this type of deal is probably only able to have been done on deadline day as prior to this it wouldn’t of been accepted by club or player. Romey 1878 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt Posted February 2, 2021 Report Share Posted February 2, 2021 2 hours ago, Bailey said: I'll give you that, it is a weird financial deal, or at least it will look that way on the books. As others have said though, it is better than being left with dead wood we cannot shift, especially as he isn't young anymore. I also don't think he is a gamble. He is a proven PL performer who came through the Utd academy. Even if it doesn't work out, it is less of a gamble than signing someone like Tosun on a 4-5 year deal who hasn't kicked a ball in the league. I am looking forward to seeing him play. If him, Richie and DCL play up top one game it will be one of the most powerful attacks in the league, or maybe even in football. Don’t get me wrong. I think he’s capable, he may prove to be more than that. I’m glad he’s here. Just the whole paperwork part that struggling with Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bill Posted February 2, 2021 Report Share Posted February 2, 2021 2 hours ago, Bailey said: I am looking forward to seeing him play. If him, Richie and DCL play up top one game it will be one of the most powerful attacks in the league, or maybe even in football. I,m looking forward to see himplay as well, but I won't be as disappointed as you will be. Best attack in football !! ….. Dream on Bailey. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bailey Posted February 2, 2021 Report Share Posted February 2, 2021 27 minutes ago, Bill said: I,m looking forward to see himplay as well, but I won't be as disappointed as you will be. Best attack in football !! ….. Dream on Bailey. I didn't say the best attack in football! The most 'powerful' attack in football, I.e. they are all big strong lads that are like shit off a shovel as well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Palfy Posted February 2, 2021 Report Share Posted February 2, 2021 2 hours ago, Bill said: Best attack in football !! ….. Dream on Bailey. There’s some crazy things written on here, and trust me I don’t take myself out of that role, but there definitely getting crazier with best attack in football, in all fairness Bailey you probably wouldn’t get away with best attack in Liverpool Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post RuffRob Posted February 2, 2021 Popular Post Report Share Posted February 2, 2021 If you look at this in perspective - How much movement of players actually happened in the transfer market - very little. Domestically Josh King arguably one if not the highest profile move. You look at other possible realistic striker options - Zirkzee - but £15m for potential, but highly unlikely to add much to the here and now situation. I was disappointed when I saw that Milik had moved to Marseilles, as he looks good on paper - I am guessing there might be reason we didn't go for him or he opted go else where - Given the timing of the King transfer my guess is that we couldn't go for him before we offloaded, and missed the boat - or Ancelotti simply not fussed on him. Will never know. So we may have bagged the best option available on transfer deadline day. Josh King has plenty of Premiership experience and he has lived (and I have read he still has a house here) in the North West, settling in should be as easier as you likely to get. Again, best you could hope for in January transfer brought in to do a instant job. In the Premier league King is on very similar stats for goals and assists as Richarlison (OK - Richarlison has been a young and improving player where as King has been in him prime over the same period - but end raw end produce is on par with each other) - so that's not two shabby considering Richarlison has been one of our top scorers of the past two seasons!!. I think Josh King breathing down Richarlison's neck for game time could well lead to a upturn in Richarlison's form - if he gets back to his best - there is good value in King being here for that alone. Depending on who starts a game (King or Richarlison) - there should be a capable and hungry player coming off the bench and looking to prove a point. A decent new signing usually breaths a bit of life in to a squad - there should be no doubt of our intentions for the second half of the season. All things consider think, Kings arrival will improved the quality of the squad. He will never be on the top of anybody's wish list, but was probably the best option available to us. It was only around 12months ago some of the 'big' club where looking to sign him (apparently) We have also acquired him on the last risk option available to us, and will be off the books in no time if he is no good, and we will no doubt get him to sign a longer contract if he turns out to be a great fit at the club. I am looking forward to seeing what he can add. Matt, Cisk, Wiggytop and 2 others 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Finn balor Posted February 2, 2021 Report Share Posted February 2, 2021 Bit of a meh signing for me. He’s more mobile than tosun and will add more threat so that’s my one positive Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cisk Posted February 2, 2021 Report Share Posted February 2, 2021 1 hour ago, RuffRob said: If you look at this in perspective - How much movement of players actually happened in the transfer market - very little. Domestically Josh King arguably one if not the highest profile move. You look at other possible realistic striker options - Zirkzee - but £15m for potential, but highly unlikely to add much to the here and now situation. I was disappointed when I saw that Milik had moved to Marseilles, as he looks good on paper - I am guessing there might be reason we didn't go for him or he opted go else where - Given the timing of the King transfer my guess is that we couldn't go for him before we offloaded, and missed the boat - or Ancelotti simply not fussed on him. Will never know. So we may have bagged the best option available on transfer deadline day. Josh King has plenty of Premiership experience and he has lived (and I have read he still has a house here) in the North West, settling in should be as easier as you likely to get. Again, best you could hope for in January transfer brought in to do a instant job. In the Premier league King is on very similar stats for goals and assists as Richarlison (OK - Richarlison has been a young and improving player where as King has been in him prime over the same period - but end raw end produce is on par with each other) - so that's not two shabby considering Richarlison has been one of our top scorers of the past two seasons!!. I think Josh King breathing down Richarlison's neck for game time could well lead to a upturn in Richarlison's form - if he gets back to his best - there is good value in King being here for that alone. Depending on who starts a game (King or Richarlison) - there should be a capable and hungry player coming off the bench and looking to prove a point. A decent new signing usually breaths a bit of life in to a squad - there should be no doubt of our intentions for the second half of the season. All things consider think, Kings arrival will improved the quality of the squad. He will never be on the top of anybody's wish list, but was probably the best option available to us. It was only around 12months ago some of the 'big' club where looking to sign him (apparently) We have also acquired him on the last risk option available to us, and will be off the books in no time if he is no good, and we will no doubt get him to sign a longer contract if he turns out to be a great fit at the club. I am looking forward to seeing what he can add. Good & fair summary. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bailey Posted February 2, 2021 Report Share Posted February 2, 2021 3 hours ago, Palfy said: There’s some crazy things written on here, and trust me I don’t take myself out of that role, but there definitely getting crazier with best attack in football, in all fairness Bailey you probably wouldn’t get away with best attack in Liverpool FFS it's like Chinese whispers in here! Palfy 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
duncanmckenzieismagic Posted February 2, 2021 Author Report Share Posted February 2, 2021 https://www.theguardian.com/football/2021/feb/02/joshua-king-everton-future-down-to-the-player-says-carlo-ancelotti Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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