markjazzbassist Posted April 27, 2018 Report Share Posted April 27, 2018 i will circle back and give Van Gaal 2 positives if he does come here. He is good with the academy (just look at his career) and he gives youth a chance (lingard, rashford, etc.). we have and need both and maybe with Brands doing the signings instead of him we will get better players than United got. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aidan Posted April 27, 2018 Report Share Posted April 27, 2018 A lot of Twitter rumours and Daily Mail saying that Sam has been told he doesn't have the backing of the board. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Newty82 Posted April 27, 2018 Popular Post Report Share Posted April 27, 2018 Yes to get rid of Allardyce! No to Van Gaal! The rumour of Van Gaal kills the excitement of sacking Allardyce! Wiggytop, Romey 1878, Matt and 2 others 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wiggytop Posted April 27, 2018 Report Share Posted April 27, 2018 Van Gaal, no thanks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chach Posted April 27, 2018 Report Share Posted April 27, 2018 I still can't believe we took this guy on in the first place. Matt, Sibdane and Romey 1878 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blueblood78 Posted April 27, 2018 Report Share Posted April 27, 2018 I would like someone with bit of passion on touchline & some fresh ideas. Simeone at athletico for example. Would hav liked to see big dunc in charge for last few games. Im sure if he had a chance wud lift the crowd for few games. Not sayin permanently but just to see if it wets his whistle. Anyone one wat big dunc has planned career wise? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Romey 1878 Posted April 27, 2018 Report Share Posted April 27, 2018 29 minutes ago, Blueblood78 said: Anyone one wat big dunc has planned career wise? To carry the bibs? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sir McGiven Posted April 27, 2018 Report Share Posted April 27, 2018 Van Gaal? No no no no no... He is Allardyce's look-a-like in a characteristic way. Stubborn, prick, always harsh to his players, his style of football is not enjoying anyone, no... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Newty82 Posted April 27, 2018 Report Share Posted April 27, 2018 Well he certainly gave nothing away in his press conference. Still seems to be going on about planning for next season....!!!! Bork. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Romey 1878 Posted April 27, 2018 Report Share Posted April 27, 2018 11 minutes ago, Newty82 said: Well he certainly gave nothing away in his press conference. Still seems to be going on about planning for next season....!!!! Bork. Because he’ll still be here. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hafnia Posted April 27, 2018 Report Share Posted April 27, 2018 2 hours ago, Romey 1878 said: To carry the bibs? I do think he needs distancing - maybe moving on. Been part of 3 failed management teams now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Romey 1878 Posted April 27, 2018 Report Share Posted April 27, 2018 5 minutes ago, hafnia said: I do think he needs distancing - maybe moving on. Been part of 3 failed management teams now. He’s like a token gesture to curry favour with the fans. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
c1982 Posted April 27, 2018 Report Share Posted April 27, 2018 A lot of EFC linked journalists saying take Allardyce’s comments today with a pinch of salt. Toying with fans with plans for the summer - his plans should be an extended stay in Benidorm after his severance pay from EFC. Quinn31 and London Blue 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
duncanmckenzieismagic Posted April 27, 2018 Report Share Posted April 27, 2018 http://www.skysports.com/football/news/11671/11348207/everton-manager-sam-allardyce-expects-to-stay-in-charge-for-next-season Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sibdane Posted April 27, 2018 Report Share Posted April 27, 2018 3 hours ago, Romey 1878 said: Because he’ll still be here. STOP. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nogs Posted April 27, 2018 Report Share Posted April 27, 2018 So unless he's bullshitting he will be here next season. Fuck off Everton. Expect to waste money on overpaid, over the hill players with no resale value, young talent to be sold or left to rot, crap football and a fourth bog standard, mid table finish in five years. Moshiri is a fucking clown. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
markjazzbassist Posted April 27, 2018 Report Share Posted April 27, 2018 i'll wait till the summer till the club confirm he's staying or going till i complain further on moshiri (i've done enough in this and other threads). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Newty82 Posted April 27, 2018 Report Share Posted April 27, 2018 Before we start getting overly emotional about it, remember we don't actually know! From Moshiris point if view, and this is only IF he is looking for stability, he might see keeping Sam on for another year as a 'safe' option considering we need a new CEO (with Elstone leaving) and potentially a new DoF, if that rumour is true. From his point of view, he knows what he is getting with Sam. We'll most likely finish 7th next season. And Moshiri might not want to be known as a 'hire and fire' type of guy. That's the only bit of defence I can put forward for the scenario of Sam staying. Beyond that...its a bad idea. The football will be dross, 7th will be regarded as a huge achievement 'because look where we were when I took over....', long term I can see more damage bring done than good, the fans will be pissed off and GP more of a museum to the past than it already is. Plenty of reasons. Whatever happens, I think we'll see a hectic couple of months pre World Cup. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nogs Posted April 27, 2018 Report Share Posted April 27, 2018 41 minutes ago, Newty82 said: Before we start getting overly emotional about it, remember we don't actually know! From Moshiris point if view, and this is only IF he is looking for stability, he might see keeping Sam on for another year as a 'safe' option considering we need a new CEO (with Elstone leaving) and potentially a new DoF, if that rumour is true. From his point of view, he knows what he is getting with Sam. We'll most likely finish 7th next season. And Moshiri might not want to be known as a 'hire and fire' type of guy. That's the only bit of defence I can put forward for the scenario of Sam staying. Beyond that...its a bad idea. The football will be dross, 7th will be regarded as a huge achievement 'because look where we were when I took over....', long term I can see more damage bring done than good, the fans will be pissed off and GP more of a museum to the past than it already is. Plenty of reasons. Whatever happens, I think we'll see a hectic couple of months pre World Cup. I think finishing 7th is hugely optimistic. Burnley are a better side than us, Leicester are rumoured to be ready to spend big again, I'd back Newcastle to finish above us if Rafa stays and I think Wolves are going to be a real team to watch. We do know exactly what we're getting with Allardyce, that's the problem. And it isn'tt just results on the pitch. 5, 10 years ago I looked at our club and thought, yeah, we're heading in the right direction. Now I feel what I felt in the late 90s, that the people behind the scenes are clueless. Sibdane, Elston Gunnn and nyblue23 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
plaidharper Posted April 27, 2018 Report Share Posted April 27, 2018 https://www.theguardian.com/football/2018/apr/27/sam-allardyce-insists-he-is-making-plans-to-be-everton-manager-next-season Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikeO Posted April 27, 2018 Report Share Posted April 27, 2018 What I don't get is that presumably he knocked back our initial approach because we just wanted to parachute him in as a firefighter to avoid relegation on a six month contract (because he would then get no pay-off). We stupidly went back and offered him 18 months, which is neither one thing or the other; if you want someone to do a "quick fix" you give him the short contract but if you think he's the guy to take you forward you give him four years. So plainly he was never thought of as a long term solution. If Moshiri had faith in him he'd have come back from London yesterday having signed an extension because of the great work he's doing. It doesn't add up for me. barryj and StevO 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikeO Posted April 27, 2018 Report Share Posted April 27, 2018 The BBC are reporting that we were 18th when he took over when we were 13th; even if you're stupid enough to give him the West Ham game we were 16th, think the entry level requirement for a beeb journo is currently a GCSE in woodwork. Matt 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BedfordBlue Posted April 27, 2018 Report Share Posted April 27, 2018 Last one out close the door Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt Posted April 27, 2018 Report Share Posted April 27, 2018 This is what happens when the manager or owner doesn’t get the club, and why it’s such an important thing. This is what happens when the club is run as a business being the priority. Utterly unsurprised and completely apathetic toward Everton FC at the moment. Shukes, StevO and Bailey 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
London Blue Posted April 27, 2018 Report Share Posted April 27, 2018 I think this is just Allardyce manoeuvring for a bigger payoff. As MikeO said if he was staying Moshiri or the club would have released a statement about the talks. They haven't, he's going. It's just a question of when and how much pay out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
barryj Posted April 27, 2018 Report Share Posted April 27, 2018 1 hour ago, MikeO said: The BBC are reporting that we were 18th when he took over when we were 13th; even if you're stupid enough to give him the West Ham game we were 16th, think the entry level requirement for a beeb journo is currently a GCSE in woodwork. This is the most annoying thing. He took over when we were 13th! Fact - Cant stand this misrepresentation from the media. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wiggytop Posted April 27, 2018 Report Share Posted April 27, 2018 Surely we're not going to keep him for next season, there nothing to be gained from having him there. We've maintained our PL status and need to move forward, which we will never do with a dinosaur. Pay him off ( much as it pains me to give him such a large amount, but we've made our bed so to speak ) and get a forward thinking manager who will take us forward . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Finn balor Posted April 27, 2018 Report Share Posted April 27, 2018 I work in Manchester and my mate says to me are you happy with sam? I gave it him big time how shite we are etc and he just looked at me and said he kept you up, he’s done a good job. That’s the concensus from the outside. People actually believe the bullshit. It’s insane. I can see him staying now Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cornish Steve Posted April 27, 2018 Report Share Posted April 27, 2018 3 hours ago, barryj said: This is the most annoying thing. He took over when we were 13th! Fact - Cant stand this misrepresentation from the media. Absolutely this. He’s made very little difference in terms of league position. Moreover the press appear to have forgotten what the crook did when England manager. Clearly the press have an agenda, and it’s not clear why. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bailey Posted April 27, 2018 Report Share Posted April 27, 2018 1 hour ago, Finn balor said: I work in Manchester and my mate says to me are you happy with sam? I gave it him big time how shite we are etc and he just looked at me and said he kept you up, he’s done a good job. That’s the concensus from the outside. People actually believe the bullshit. It’s insane. I can see him staying now Paul Merson just gave him 9/10 for the job he has done here. It' just madness. MikeO 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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