Cisk Posted February 2, 2020 Author Report Share Posted February 2, 2020 26 minutes ago, markjazzbassist said: What a difference a proper manager makes!!!! Same squad and he’s working miracles. Long may it continue Think miracles is a bit strong but he certainly shows that he knows what hes doing. I'm wondering if the lack of signings this Jan was partly due to Carlo actually seeing something good and which could be worked on with the squad we have. It wasn't that long ago everyone was saying this was the best squad Everton had ever assembled. Don't get me wrong there is some real dross there but some should be playing better than they have been Matt and StevO 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cornish Steve Posted February 2, 2020 Report Share Posted February 2, 2020 6 hours ago, Cisk said: Think miracles is a bit strong but he certainly shows that he knows what hes doing. I'm wondering if the lack of signings this Jan was partly due to Carlo actually seeing something good and which could be worked on with the squad we have. It wasn't that long ago everyone was saying this was the best squad Everton had ever assembled. Don't get me wrong there is some real dross there but some should be playing better than they have been Financially, we made our financial bed with Koeman, Allardyce, and Silva and we have little option right now but to sleep in it. I doubt there's any other reason. The summer window should be different, and my guess is that things will look quite different by then. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StevO Posted February 3, 2020 Report Share Posted February 3, 2020 Or the players he wants aren’t available. Btay and pete0 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
markjazzbassist Posted February 3, 2020 Report Share Posted February 3, 2020 Some on here wanted Arteta, look at how Carlo is doing with us compared to Arteta who has 1 win. Carlo baby, I’m still buzzing that we actually have this guy as our manager London Blue 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hafnia Posted February 3, 2020 Report Share Posted February 3, 2020 It's unfathomable to want arteta over Ancellotti..... yes the upside of arteta is that he has 30 years of managing in him all being well...... but that's if he is a manager. Ancellotti has been there, seen it done it..... arteta has everything to prove Don't get me wrong.... I would have had arteta over Howe, moyes, dyche, wilder and all the bother names.... but not Carlo. Matt 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shukes Posted February 3, 2020 Report Share Posted February 3, 2020 Not sure I saw anyone saying they wanted Arteta over Ancelotti? I saw many people (myself included) saying we would like Arteta over many other managers, but that was before Ancelotti became a realistic option. I may have missed some saying that. But myself personally, I would have had Arteta over Dyche, etc. But was made up when Ancelotti became available and we got him. Matt, Btay, Bailey and 1 other 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Palfy Posted February 3, 2020 Report Share Posted February 3, 2020 39 minutes ago, Hafnia said: It's unfathomable to want arteta over Ancellotti..... yes the upside of arteta is that he has 30 years of managing in him all being well...... but that's if he is a manager. Ancellotti has been there, seen it done it..... arteta has everything to prove Don't get me wrong.... I would have had arteta over Howe, moyes, dyche, wilder and all the bother names.... but not Carlo. I wouldn’t of had him over Howe, for me he’s unknown when it comes to management yes he’s worked with Pep but he’s not Pep. Personally I think Arsenal and this job are far to big for anyone as their first job. StevO and markjazzbassist 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gwlad Posted February 4, 2020 Report Share Posted February 4, 2020 I'd have had our Spud over Howe. He has something to prove, though it might take time and I think Howe is stuck in a rut. Small time manager. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
duncanmckenzieismagic Posted February 5, 2020 Report Share Posted February 5, 2020 https://www.justarsenal.com/the-league-table-since-arteta-and-ancelotti-arrived-gives-arsenal-food-for-thought/234711 markjazzbassist 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aidan Posted February 5, 2020 Report Share Posted February 5, 2020 14 minutes ago, duncanmckenzieismagic said: https://www.justarsenal.com/the-league-table-since-arteta-and-ancelotti-arrived-gives-arsenal-food-for-thought/234711 The article doesn't even consider that Ancellotti might not have even wanted to go to Arsenal... Whilst it's true he might have preffered Arsenal, its also possible that maybe he saw the chance to work with a board that seem more generous more appealing than the gunners. Arsenal seem content to finish in a CL spot, with minimal investment to get a return, whilst we seem to be throwing money at trying to climb the table and increase reputation. Maybe he has the chance to express himself more with the squad he could build here than that he could at Arsenal. nutmegwolf203 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
duncanmckenzieismagic Posted February 5, 2020 Report Share Posted February 5, 2020 58 minutes ago, Aidan said: The article doesn't even consider that Ancellotti might not have even wanted to go to Arsenal... Whilst it's true he might have preffered Arsenal, its also possible that maybe he saw the chance to work with a board that seem more generous more appealing than the gunners. Arsenal seem content to finish in a CL spot, with minimal investment to get a return, whilst we seem to be throwing money at trying to climb the table and increase reputation. Maybe he has the chance to express himself more with the squad he could build here than that he could at Arsenal. To be honest I was more interested in the firm table really Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pete0 Posted February 5, 2020 Report Share Posted February 5, 2020 Reckon Ancelotti would've had the choice. There's no way Arsenal would opt for the unproven Arteta over Ancelotti. Ancelotti was wined and dined by billionaires with vision... But only the man himself will know if he picked us as we're the better project (bigger budget/more ambitious board and Brands) or whether it was purely for the reddies. StevO 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gwlad Posted February 5, 2020 Report Share Posted February 5, 2020 Having been a PL manager, Carlo knows how Arsenal is run and maybe wasn't interested, simply preferring what he saw here. markjazzbassist 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aidan Posted February 7, 2020 Report Share Posted February 7, 2020 Walcott said that before the Watford game Carlo told him he's 'allowed to score goals' nutmegwolf203, London Blue and markjazzbassist 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hafnia Posted February 7, 2020 Report Share Posted February 7, 2020 5 hours ago, Aidan said: Walcott said that before the Watford game Carlo told him he's 'allowed to score goals' He's allowed to pass to one of his own players too..... maybe he needs to be told that Still got bags of pace but he's pretty poo. Anyone remember franz carr? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Palfy Posted February 7, 2020 Report Share Posted February 7, 2020 1 hour ago, Hafnia said: He's allowed to pass to one of his own players too..... maybe he needs to be told that Still got bags of pace but he's pretty poo. Anyone remember franz carr? No but I remember Franz Ferdinand a decent band from Scotland StevO 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shukes Posted February 7, 2020 Report Share Posted February 7, 2020 2 hours ago, Hafnia said: He's allowed to pass to one of his own players too..... maybe he needs to be told that Still got bags of pace but he's pretty poo. Anyone remember franz carr? Villa player? The names familiar and I’m sure he played for a midlands team. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hafnia Posted February 7, 2020 Report Share Posted February 7, 2020 17 minutes ago, Shukes said: Villa player? The names familiar and I’m sure he played for a midlands team. Forest I recall him at.... fast. Shukes 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Palfy Posted February 7, 2020 Report Share Posted February 7, 2020 44 minutes ago, Hafnia said: Forest I recall him at.... fast. I remember him from Forrest, if it’s who I’m thinking of was he a black lad and quite a bit of pace? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elston Gunnn Posted February 8, 2020 Report Share Posted February 8, 2020 https://www.theguardian.com/football/2020/feb/07/carlo-ancelotti-everton-managerial-methods Ancelotti: “I am not a magician ... until now.” A little joke from Carlo. Good article. But was he really suggesting a comparison of his young players here at Everton with Buffon, Cannavaro, Thuram, and Crespo at Parma over 20 years ago? If so, I hope he’s a magician. StevO, markjazzbassist and Matt 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Romey 1878 Posted February 8, 2020 Report Share Posted February 8, 2020 2 hours ago, Elston Gunnn said: https://www.theguardian.com/football/2020/feb/07/carlo-ancelotti-everton-managerial-methods Ancelotti: “I am not a magician ... until now.” A little joke from Carlo. Good article. But was he really suggesting a comparison of his young players here at Everton with Buffon, Cannavaro, Thuram, and Crespo at Parma over 20 years ago? If so, I hope he’s a magician. I really like the way he comes across in press conferences. It's not too serious but it's not all laughs and jokes either. And he's very honest too, I appreciate that in a person. Matt and nutmegwolf203 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bailey Posted February 8, 2020 Report Share Posted February 8, 2020 Out of interest, is there anyone Ancellotti has actually improved yet? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikeO Posted February 8, 2020 Report Share Posted February 8, 2020 14 points from 15 games under Silva, 22 from 11 under Carlo and Dunc; what a transformation! markjazzbassist 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shukes Posted February 8, 2020 Report Share Posted February 8, 2020 2 hours ago, Bailey said: Out of interest, is there anyone Ancellotti has actually improved yet? Niasse and Sidibe. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cisk Posted February 8, 2020 Author Report Share Posted February 8, 2020 4 hours ago, Bailey said: Out of interest, is there anyone Ancellotti has actually improved yet? Loads, Bernard, Theo, Schneids (yes he has!!) - Fucking Holgate! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StevO Posted February 8, 2020 Report Share Posted February 8, 2020 4 hours ago, Bailey said: Out of interest, is there anyone Ancellotti has actually improved yet? Anyone? I think he’s made us play as a team, improving the whole team. Outside chance of top four? Five points behind Chelsea, from our last ten games (before today) we took 19 points. From Chelsea’s last ten, they took 12. United 14, Spurs 17. Catching Chelsea isn’t out of the question, not trying to be blindly optimistic here but get a point at Arsenal and beat United, that Chelsea game becomes very interesting. MikeO, Bailey and markjazzbassist 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
markjazzbassist Posted February 8, 2020 Report Share Posted February 8, 2020 im with you Ste, we can catch Chelsea. Just need to keep grinding out results. Carlo has done the Lord's work with this team and it's showing. He's getting players that were castoffs by many regimes (morgan) to show something now. that is called man management, and he's one of the best in the business at that. so happy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Finn balor Posted February 8, 2020 Popular Post Report Share Posted February 8, 2020 4 hours ago, Bailey said: Out of interest, is there anyone Ancellotti has actually improved yet? Yep Everton Hafnia, markjazzbassist, Steve_E and 2 others 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Palfy Posted February 8, 2020 Popular Post Report Share Posted February 8, 2020 5 hours ago, Bailey said: Out of interest, is there anyone Ancellotti has actually improved yet? Yes me the quality of my life on match days has improved massively. nutmegwolf203, dunlopp9987, Shukes and 4 others 7 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hafnia Posted February 8, 2020 Report Share Posted February 8, 2020 5 hours ago, Bailey said: Out of interest, is there anyone Ancellotti has actually improved yet? DCL has scored more goals, Richarlison less temperamental, Holgate, Schneiderlein, Walcott, Kean Cisk, nutmegwolf203 and markjazzbassist 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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