FairWooney Posted February 1, 2021 Report Share Posted February 1, 2021 we'll sign King 5 minutes after the deadline by Fax! MikeO 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RuffRob Posted February 1, 2021 Report Share Posted February 1, 2021 49 minutes ago, Matt said: I wasn’t venting anger, I was just pointing out the fact that we’re suffering because of his ignorance/naivety. Was all spent with the right intentions but doesn’t change the fact he created the situation. sorry, was meant at any sort of go at your post. I was just a general comment. - I fully agree with you - like you said its his own fault - but hard to get angry with him as was all done with good intentions for the club. My point was 10years ago - he would have just been able to spend again (if he wanted, and I think he does) - We had been hamstrung being skint for decades, a money man comes it and now its a system within football that's holding us back. Just our luck!! markjazzbassist and Matt 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bailey Posted February 1, 2021 Report Share Posted February 1, 2021 No improvements and apparently due to financial restraints, yet all summer we were being told FFP didn't matter anymore. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RuffRob Posted February 1, 2021 Report Share Posted February 1, 2021 30 minutes ago, Bailey said: No improvements and apparently due to financial restraints, yet all summer we were being told FFP didn't matter anymore. might be a bit of wiggle room due to COVID for situations clubs find themselves in with reduced balance sheet and difficulties in balancing the book - but I don't think we where told FFP 'don't matter anymore' or it has now gone away and club can spend what they like. It was my belief that Everton are/where a club sailing close to the wind in the FFP department. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bailey Posted February 1, 2021 Report Share Posted February 1, 2021 1 hour ago, RuffRob said: might be a bit of wiggle room due to COVID for situations clubs find themselves in with reduced balance sheet and difficulties in balancing the book - but I don't think we where told FFP 'don't matter anymore' or it has now gone away and club can spend what they like. It was my belief that Everton are/where a club sailing close to the wind in the FFP department. I agree with everything you have said but after the City case was largely quashed in the summer, there was a lot of people saying it was the end of FFP! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
London Blue Posted February 1, 2021 Report Share Posted February 1, 2021 7 minutes ago, Bailey said: I agree with everything you have said but after the City case was largely quashed in the summer, there was a lot of people saying it was the end of FFP! It is if you have a billionaire owner who can pay £70 million for a can of coke when they visit. Btay and Bailey 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
barryj Posted February 1, 2021 Report Share Posted February 1, 2021 We got any players left? On a serious note the club have done well to cut their cloth accordingly as long in these challenging times. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlbanyNYToffee Posted February 2, 2021 Report Share Posted February 2, 2021 Winter 2021: IN: King OUT: Lossl LOAN IN: LOAN OUT: Pennington, Branthwaite, Simms, Bolasie, Tosun, Kenny, Gordon, Beni CONTRACT ENDS AFTER SEASON: Besic, Bolasie, Walcott, Pennington, Adeniran, Connolly Squad for rest of season: GK: Pickford, Olsen, J Virginia DEF: Keane, Mina, Holgate, Godfrey, Digne, Coleman, Nkounkou MID: Allan, Doucoure, Gomes, Davies, Siggy, Gbamin, Delph FWD: DCL, Richarlison, James, Iwobi, King, Bernard markjazzbassist 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Romey 1878 Posted February 2, 2021 Report Share Posted February 2, 2021 Baningime has gone out on loan too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wiggytop Posted February 2, 2021 Report Share Posted February 2, 2021 7 hours ago, AlbanyNYToffee said: Winter 2021: IN: King OUT: Lossl LOAN IN: LOAN OUT: Pennington, Branthwaite, Simms, Bolasie, Tosun, Kenny, Gordon, Beni CONTRACT ENDS AFTER SEASON: Besic, Bolasie, Walcott, Pennington, Adeniran, Connolly Squad for rest of season: GK: Pickford, Olsen, J Virginia DEF: Keane, Mina, Holgate, Godfrey, Digne, Coleman, Nkounkou MID: Allan, Doucoure, Gomes, Davies, Siggy, Gbamin, Delph FWD: DCL, Richarlison, James, Iwobi, King, Bernard Only one name in there that really pisses me of now, anyone care to guess Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Romey 1878 Posted February 2, 2021 Report Share Posted February 2, 2021 1 hour ago, Wiggytop said: Only one name in there that really pisses me of now, anyone care to guess It should be two - Sigurdsson and Delph. barryj and AlbanyNYToffee 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
duncanmckenzieismagic Posted February 2, 2021 Report Share Posted February 2, 2021 Can’t believe we never managed to get shut of Besic Bailey 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wiggytop Posted February 2, 2021 Report Share Posted February 2, 2021 1 hour ago, Romey 1878 said: It should be two - Sigurdsson and Delph. It’s Delph, should never have gone near him, Sigurdsson was a plan that hasn’t worked out, just about does something worthwhile every now and then, whereas Delph is either injured or fucks things up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
markjazzbassist Posted February 2, 2021 Author Report Share Posted February 2, 2021 2 hours ago, duncanmckenzieismagic said: Can’t believe we never managed to get shut of Besic His loans haven’t gone well and maybe he’s just instructed the club he wants to see his deal out since he’s lived here for so long. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StevO Posted February 2, 2021 Report Share Posted February 2, 2021 3 hours ago, duncanmckenzieismagic said: Can’t believe we never managed to get shut of Besic I can’t believe his contract hasn’t expired by now. He’s just shit. Vranny 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Isaiah Posted February 2, 2021 Report Share Posted February 2, 2021 Besic seems to have been with the club since I became a fan, and I've been a fan since the early 90s. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Formby Posted February 2, 2021 Report Share Posted February 2, 2021 I always liked Besic. Tenacious, quick, decent passer, right attitude. Injuries totally wrecked his career. pete0, AlbanyNYToffee and Matt 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlbanyNYToffee Posted February 2, 2021 Report Share Posted February 2, 2021 2 hours ago, Isaiah said: Besic seems to have been with the club since I became a fan, and I've been a fan since the early 90s. 1 hour ago, Formby said: I always liked Besic. Tenacious, quick, decent passer, right attitude. Injuries totally wrecked his career. Always wanted to see Besic succeed but unfortunately just never worked out - Gbamin-esque at this point. This conversation sent me on a quick research mission. Bobby Brown Shoes left the club in May 2016. The squad that year appeared to have 28 players. Of which only 3 are still in a blue shirt. Coleman, Holgate and Besic. FWIW Besic was signed in July 2014. Wow. P.S. Bobby's last two signings before getting sacked...Shani Tarashaj and Oumar Niasse in January 2016. Another wow. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cisk Posted February 2, 2021 Report Share Posted February 2, 2021 I think what this window has achieved is the promise of a very exciting summer window to come with these wages of the books and signings of the calibre of James/Allan being targetted Palfy, Romey 1878, Matt and 1 other 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RuffRob Posted February 2, 2021 Report Share Posted February 2, 2021 lots of young players (who will see few minutes here) have gone out to get competitive minutes under their belt. Transfer all now seem to be a little better thought out. Just in Ancelotti's press conference today - he didn't talk about King being brought in as a proven goals scorer in the premier league and to get us more goals - the opposite in fact (so he has already taken that pressure of King in his first opportunity). He said he's a good fit for the squad, which I agree he is - just what we need. Cenk and Gordon out of the squad and bring in a player who as the moment in time will cover both these positions with better experience and quality and experience. I also got the feeling a move for King would have been made last summer if one or two others had been managed to be moved on. Although it might look like it given the timing, it definitely was not a last minute panic buy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
c1982 Posted February 2, 2021 Report Share Posted February 2, 2021 8 hours ago, StevO said: I can’t believe his contract hasn’t expired by now. He’s just shit. But, but, but he does slide tackles and punches the ground when he’s angry! StevO and MikeO 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
c1982 Posted February 2, 2021 Report Share Posted February 2, 2021 11 minutes ago, RuffRob said: lots of young players (who will see few minutes here) have gone out to get competitive minutes under their belt. Transfer all now seem to be a little better thought out. Just in Ancelotti's press conference today - he didn't talk about King being brought in as a proven goals scorer in the premier league and to get us more goals - the opposite in fact (so he has already taken that pressure of King in his first opportunity). He said he's a good fit for the squad, which I agree he is - just what we need. Cenk and Gordon out of the squad and bring in a player who as the moment in time will cover both these positions with better experience and quality and experience. I also got the feeling a move for King would have been made last summer if one or two others had been managed to be moved on. Although it might look like it given the timing, it definitely was not a last minute panic buy. My thinking at the end of last season, when we were linked, was and still is - he can do Tosun’s job and Bernard’s job so was hoping we’d sell both. £200k per week between them for not a lot of impact. This summer is going to be the first when we’ve finally shaken off previous mistakes (bar a couple). Having Ancelotti and hopefully European football could be such an important factor - could be make or break for the Moshiri era really - we certainly can’t afford another Koeman/Walsh catastrophe in the transfer market! Romey 1878, StevO, MikeO and 1 other 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StevO Posted February 3, 2021 Report Share Posted February 3, 2021 7 hours ago, Formby said: I always liked Besic. Tenacious, quick, decent passer, right attitude. Injuries totally wrecked his career. But since Roberto left not one manager has rated him, including the ones who loaned him. Maybe he just wasn’t good enough? Enough managers thought he wasn’t good enough anyway. He got the best luck of his life when he got his Everton contract, I don’t blame him for taking every penny, because he’ll get nowhere near it again in his career. Bailey 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StevO Posted February 3, 2021 Report Share Posted February 3, 2021 1 hour ago, c1982 said: But, but, but he does slide tackles and punches the ground when he’s angry! Made me laugh that Love his passion. But everyone in Goodison (imagine that) on a match day would have just as much, if not more. He has slightly more ability than your regular fat lad in the upper gwladys (me). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vranny Posted February 3, 2021 Report Share Posted February 3, 2021 2 hours ago, StevO said: But since Roberto left not one manager has rated him, including the ones who loaned him. Maybe he just wasn’t good enough? Enough managers thought he wasn’t good enough anyway. He got the best luck of his life when he got his Everton contract, I don’t blame him for taking every penny, because he’ll get nowhere near it again in his career. I just can’t believe that we offered him a contract extension at some stage too. We’ve effectively gotten 1.5 seasons of playing time out of him over a 7 year contract. Diabolical. StevO 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shukes Posted February 3, 2021 Report Share Posted February 3, 2021 Not too bad for a January window. While not ecstatic with King, at least he has a bit of pace which adds another dimension to us. Im more pleased we didn’t lose any players. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pete0 Posted February 3, 2021 Report Share Posted February 3, 2021 Manager says we tried for him in the summer so no whiff of desperation like most January transfers. StevO and markjazzbassist 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Palfy Posted February 3, 2021 Report Share Posted February 3, 2021 58 minutes ago, pete0 said: Manager says we tried for him in the summer so no whiff of desperation like most January transfers. I never heard that let’s hope he’s better than Callum Wilson and has the same impact for us a Wilson has had for Newcastle, but can’t help feeling if it’s true and we were looking at him in the summer we were looking at the wrong one. StevO 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Formby Posted February 3, 2021 Report Share Posted February 3, 2021 7 hours ago, StevO said: But since Roberto left not one manager has rated him, including the ones who loaned him. Maybe he just wasn’t good enough? Enough managers thought he wasn’t good enough anyway. He got the best luck of his life when he got his Everton contract, I don’t blame him for taking every penny, because he’ll get nowhere near it again in his career. Maybe. Certainly, post 2016, after the ACL, his game never recovered. Matt 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pete0 Posted February 3, 2021 Report Share Posted February 3, 2021 30 minutes ago, Palfy said: I never heard that let’s hope he’s better than Callum Wilson and has the same impact for us a Wilson has had for Newcastle, but can’t help feeling if it’s true and we were looking at him in the summer we were looking at the wrong one. Was in the pre-match conference. Don't usually bother watching them myself but was bored. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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