Gwlad Posted August 27, 2021 Report Share Posted August 27, 2021 Love the calm, measured way he deals with press conferences. First question today was asking about Ronaldo transfer. Response was he isn't his player so nothing to discuss. Also his answer to transfer speculation is not to comment. Brilliant! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Btay Posted August 27, 2021 Report Share Posted August 27, 2021 4 hours ago, Gwlad all over said: Love the calm, measured way he deals with press conferences. First question today was asking about Ronaldo transfer. Response was he isn't his player so nothing to discuss. Also his answer to transfer speculation is not to comment. Brilliant! We have given him absolutely nothing to work with as well. Credit to him. Matt and Cisk 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cisk Posted August 28, 2021 Report Share Posted August 28, 2021 21 hours ago, Btay said: We have given him absolutely nothing to work with as well. Credit to him. Yes, fully agree. I was not in the sign Rafa camp bit to be fair I'm starting to think he is absolutely the person we need at the moment. I know it's only 3 games in....but seriously, I have some positivity coming back. London Blue 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Btay Posted August 28, 2021 Popular Post Report Share Posted August 28, 2021 14 hours ago, Cisk said: Yes, fully agree. I was not in the sign Rafa camp bit to be fair I'm starting to think he is absolutely the person we need at the moment. I know it's only 3 games in....but seriously, I have some positivity coming back. Said before, he has taken the biggest risk of all our previous managers and we’ve given him the least. I respect him, I really do. The sheer irony that this man could be the manager we’ve needed after the previous pretenders is about as Everton as it gets. Bailey, Gwlad, milesey05 and 2 others 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Palfy Posted August 29, 2021 Report Share Posted August 29, 2021 10 hours ago, Btay said: Said before, he has taken the biggest risk of all our previous managers and we’ve given him the least. I respect him, I really do. The sheer irony that this man could be the manager we’ve needed after the previous is pretenders is about as Everton as it gets. Not trying to say I told you so but I’ve advocated him for years, but if a section of supporters had got there way we wouldn’t have him now because he managed the shite and called us small, not saying there’s anything wrong with having passion for your club but sometimes you can’t let your heart rule your head. duncanmckenzieismagic, Sibdane, Btay and 1 other 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
milesey05 Posted September 1, 2021 Report Share Posted September 1, 2021 That window just made his job that little bit tougher. Burnley had a bigger kitty than us due to FFP. If he can guide us to a top 6 finish this season with no funds available, it really will be a great achievement. patto 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt Posted September 1, 2021 Report Share Posted September 1, 2021 A lot more respect for him after the window, for the simple reason that he must've known he was going to get no support in this window on top of knowing fans will berate him at any chance. A top half finish and a decent cup run to start the ball rolling, I don't think we're talking about Europe again until we're in the new stadium and get massive new sponsorship deals. MikeO, dunlopp9987, London Blue and 1 other 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hafnia Posted September 1, 2021 Report Share Posted September 1, 2021 Pleased we have got him under these circumstances. I was told by someone in the know that Ancellotti quite frankly was not interested in the final few months of last season ...... It's Everton that. Whilst loads of fans were bemoaning us getting in an ex Liverpool manager renowned for his hard work and diligence who really wanted to manage us ..... We had a nice guy glamour manager on £250k a week who literally did not give a stuff. Its all about a culture shift and it's not gonna be pretty. dunlopp9987 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
London Blue Posted September 1, 2021 Report Share Posted September 1, 2021 Benitez has been very professional in everything he has done. He has a plan of how he wants us to play and the players are buting into it. He has not bitched about the lack of funds for this window, just worked with Brands to get the best available players and blended them into the team. Very impressed so far, I expect I will be more impressed at the end of the season. Loking forward to seeing what he and Brands can do with some real money in the transfer kitty. dunlopp9987 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bill Posted September 1, 2021 Report Share Posted September 1, 2021 Yeah, lots of respect for Rafa for taking the job on, amongst all the banners and other shit that was flying about he must have been told there would be no money this year. I hope he makes a go of it. dunlopp9987 and duncanmckenzieismagic 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bailey Posted September 1, 2021 Report Share Posted September 1, 2021 To be fair to him, if there was any manager that we were linked with that was going to have to operate under these circumstances then I probably would have picked him because of his experience at doing it with Newcastle and his experience in the league. It would have probably been him or Moyes anyway. dunlopp9987 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dunlopp9987 Posted September 1, 2021 Report Share Posted September 1, 2021 Just have to echo all the sentiment above. Came in to a job that was hostile from the off, has said and done everything right, been given next to nothing for transfer funds, and has us into the next round of the league cup and 7 points from 9. Early days, of course, but I'm going to back him with full support, because I genuinely feel he can do the job better than anyone we've had since Moyes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cornish Steve Posted September 1, 2021 Report Share Posted September 1, 2021 7 hours ago, Matt said: A lot more respect for him after the window, for the simple reason that he must've known he was going to get no support in this window on top of knowing fans will berate him at any chance. A top half finish and a decent cup run to start the ball rolling, I don't think we're talking about Europe again until we're in the new stadium and get massive new sponsorship deals. I disagree. Clearly, he refuses to embrace James as a member of the team and probably agreed that he could spend once James' salary was no longer a burden. He's probably ticked off right now, and it will be interesting to see how he responds. If he has any sense, he'll take advantage of James' considerable talent. What worries me is the BBC's commentary this morning. If Benitez fails to succeed this year, it won't be his fault but, instead, the lack of Everton spending. We shouldn't be giving anyone a ready-made excuse. If Benitez fails, it will because of his lack of management ability, not a result of Everton's lack of spending. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cornish Steve Posted September 1, 2021 Report Share Posted September 1, 2021 Also, Benitez has one of the easiest set of early fixtures of any recent manager. It's way too soon to judge his abilities. Let's see whether we beat Liverpool and Spurs again this season and how well we do against MC, MU, and Chelsea. That's the real test. markjazzbassist 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SpartyBlue Posted September 1, 2021 Report Share Posted September 1, 2021 6 minutes ago, Cornish Steve said: Also, Benitez has one of the easiest set of early fixtures of any recent manager. It's way too soon to judge his abilities. Let's see whether we beat Liverpool and Spurs again this season and how well we do against MC, MU, and Chelsea. That's the real test. You’re right we’ve had an easy schedule but I’m more concerned with beating the teams we are supposed to beat than how we do against Champion’s league sides. We did fantastically well against the top of the league last season and finished 10th. Matt, Cornish Steve, dunlopp9987 and 1 other 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dunlopp9987 Posted September 1, 2021 Report Share Posted September 1, 2021 10 minutes ago, Cornish Steve said: I disagree. Clearly, he refuses to embrace James as a member of the team and probably agreed that he could spend once James' salary was no longer a burden. He's probably ticked off right now, and it will be interesting to see how he responds. If he has any sense, he'll take advantage of James' considerable talent. What worries me is the BBC's commentary this morning. If Benitez fails to succeed this year, it won't be his fault but, instead, the lack of Everton spending. We shouldn't be giving anyone a ready-made excuse. If Benitez fails, it will because of his lack of management ability, not a result of Everton's lack of spending. For sure, it shouldn't be a built-in excuse. But have we had a manager in recent memory come in who has had so many cards stacked against him so early on in his tenure? I too am curious to see how he handles the James situation, since that could end up being a focal point of how this season progresses. But considering he received death threats and had fuck-all to spend in the window right at the start of his time here, he does deserve a little leeway. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
markjazzbassist Posted September 1, 2021 Report Share Posted September 1, 2021 10 minutes ago, Cornish Steve said: Also, Benitez has one of the easiest set of early fixtures of any recent manager. It's way too soon to judge his abilities. Let's see whether we beat Liverpool and Spurs again this season and how well we do against MC, MU, and Chelsea. That's the real test. Spot on, people getting all excited we have played no one, Carlo had us top of the league. Let’s wait till after the holidays and see where we are at Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt Posted September 1, 2021 Report Share Posted September 1, 2021 2 hours ago, Cornish Steve said: I disagree. Clearly, he refuses to embrace James as a member of the team and probably agreed that he could spend once James' salary was no longer a burden. He's probably ticked off right now, and it will be interesting to see how he responds. If he has any sense, he'll take advantage of James' considerable talent. What worries me is the BBC's commentary this morning. If Benitez fails to succeed this year, it won't be his fault but, instead, the lack of Everton spending. We shouldn't be giving anyone a ready-made excuse. If Benitez fails, it will because of his lack of management ability, not a result of Everton's lack of spending. Or he didn't involve him expecting him to be sold. Lots of ifs buts and maybes, I'm just trying to be positive in quite a bleak period for the club mate. Zoo 2.0 and London Blue 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Palfy Posted September 1, 2021 Report Share Posted September 1, 2021 5 hours ago, Cornish Steve said: Let's see whether we beat Liverpool and Spurs again this season and how well we do against MC, MU, and Chelsea. That's the real test. You can’t compare last season with this one, the team’s you have mentioned have spent big we haven’t, imo if we get anything from these teams it will be a far bigger achievement than last season no matter who the manager is. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
markjazzbassist Posted September 2, 2021 Report Share Posted September 2, 2021 16 hours ago, Palfy said: You can’t compare last season with this one, the team’s you have mentioned have spent big we haven’t, imo if we get anything from these teams it will be a far bigger achievement than last season no matter who the manager is. It’s the same team though so yes you can Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gwlad Posted September 2, 2021 Report Share Posted September 2, 2021 For those inclined you can vote for Rafa and Demarai. https://www.premierleague.com/news/2233840 https://plpotm.easports.com/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Hafnia Posted September 2, 2021 Popular Post Report Share Posted September 2, 2021 3 hours ago, markjazzbassist said: It’s the same team though so yes you can How? If other teams have strengthened which they arguably have then it's not the same. Man United alone have bought in Sancho, Ronaldo, Varanne...... Nearly a 25% change in their starting 11. Palfy, StevO, Btay and 2 others 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Palfy Posted September 2, 2021 Report Share Posted September 2, 2021 3 hours ago, markjazzbassist said: It’s the same team though so yes you can You’ve missed the point the team’s we are playing against aren’t they have improved immeasurable compared to us so for Rafa it won’t be like for like Hafnia and dunlopp9987 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
markjazzbassist Posted September 2, 2021 Report Share Posted September 2, 2021 5 hours ago, Hafnia said: How? If other teams have strengthened which they arguably have then it's not the same. Man United alone have bought in Sancho, Ronaldo, Varanne...... Nearly a 25% change in their starting 11. its literally the same team carlo had, james allan doucoure dcl richarlison etc all still here no one left. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pete0 Posted September 2, 2021 Report Share Posted September 2, 2021 16 minutes ago, markjazzbassist said: its literally the same team carlo had, james allan doucoure dcl richarlison etc all still here no one left. We're stronger just by Sigurdsson not being in the squad. He dragged us down. We'll be better for it once we get rid of Keane as well. Btay and Aidan 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Btay Posted September 2, 2021 Report Share Posted September 2, 2021 I’m hoping Rafa gets more consistency. Caro had really high highs and very low lows. I don’t expect us to get results against the big 3 this season but I wouldn’t be surprised if we finish higher in the table than last year. London Blue 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hafnia Posted September 2, 2021 Report Share Posted September 2, 2021 1 hour ago, markjazzbassist said: its literally the same team carlo had, james allan doucoure dcl richarlison etc all still here no one left. Yes....... We know this but how are you going to apply a fair comparison when the top teams have improved immeasurably? Are you saying the man United team this year isn't better than last year's? Cos I'm saying right now that they are ... Matt and dunlopp9987 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dunlopp9987 Posted September 2, 2021 Report Share Posted September 2, 2021 1 hour ago, markjazzbassist said: its literally the same team carlo had, james allan doucoure dcl richarlison etc all still here no one left. Mark you're not getting it Sure our team is the same, but arguably every team around us improved. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cornish Steve Posted September 2, 2021 Report Share Posted September 2, 2021 22 minutes ago, dunlopp9987 said: Mark you're not getting it Sure our team is the same, but arguably every team around us improved. Every team around us spent more money, that's for sure. It remains to be seen whether they improved. After all, we spent more than most in some recent seasons but didn't improve. Matt, StevO and markjazzbassist 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dunlopp9987 Posted September 3, 2021 Report Share Posted September 3, 2021 1 hour ago, Cornish Steve said: Every team around us spent more money, that's for sure. It remains to be seen whether they improved. After all, we spent more than most in some recent seasons but didn't improve. Fair. I mean, we know that even though Arsenal spent more than any other side, they're still shit StevO 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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