SpartyBlue Posted September 26, 2022 Report Share Posted September 26, 2022 45 minutes ago, Bailey said: A quick look at the fixture list and that gets him up to the Bournemouth double before the World Cup - 7 games. I thought his second opinion was Tuesday? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RuffRob Posted September 27, 2022 Report Share Posted September 27, 2022 You have to expect that it will be after the world cup when he is playing again. My feeling is Coleman will do us proud this next 6 weeks with a stronger team around him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Romey 1878 Posted September 27, 2022 Report Share Posted September 27, 2022 57 minutes ago, RuffRob said: You have to expect that it will be after the world cup when he is playing again. My feeling is Coleman will do us proud this next 6 weeks with a stronger team around him. I have a horrible feeling we'll go to 3 at the back with Coleman as the third CB. dunlopp9987 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt Posted September 27, 2022 Report Share Posted September 27, 2022 35 minutes ago, Romey 1878 said: I have a horrible feeling we'll go to 3 at the back with Coleman as the third CB. Holgate can play RB too... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Romey 1878 Posted September 27, 2022 Report Share Posted September 27, 2022 8 minutes ago, Matt said: Holgate can play RB too... He's injured. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Romey 1878 Posted September 27, 2022 Report Share Posted September 27, 2022 6 minutes ago, RPG said: That would upset the balance of the entire team, particularly the midfield, which has been superb recently. I would prefer to see Coleman (or Holgate) as a RB in a back four but (if Coleman) told not to get too far forward. Pickford Coleman Coady Tarkowski Mykolenko Iwobi Gueye Onana Gordon DCL/Maupay Gray/Mcneil The problem with Coleman and Mykolenko being our full-backs is that neither one of them adds much to the attack, and we need at least one of them to do that. Bailey and chicagoblue 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Btay Posted September 27, 2022 Report Share Posted September 27, 2022 1 hour ago, RPG said: I do agree. Perhaps it's time to concentrate on being solid and hard to beat for a few games. Stan Mills is another option of course but I'm not sure how ready he is. He looked solid enough in the pre season games he featured in. Tom Davies has also played RB for us before. What I am worried about is disrupting the balance of our midfield three. I think any RB solution must leave the midfield unchanged. As much as I wouldn’t want to see us change to midfield I can see Doucoure coming in and Iwobi to RB. Doesn’t really matter what we do though it’s not going to be ideal. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bill Posted September 27, 2022 Report Share Posted September 27, 2022 No, Iwobi won't be moved. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
plaidharper Posted September 27, 2022 Report Share Posted September 27, 2022 3 hours ago, Romey 1878 said: The problem with Coleman and Mykolenko being our full-backs is that neither one of them adds much to the attack, and we need at least one of them to do that. I wonder if Myko would be more attacking if Gray learned to pass the ball? Romey 1878, Elston Gunnn and London Blue 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
duncanmckenzieismagic Posted September 28, 2022 Report Share Posted September 28, 2022 Everton defender Nathan Patterson is expected to be out for around four to five weeks with an ankle injury. The 20-year-old Blues right-back was forced off while on international duty during Scotland’s Nations League win over Ukraine at Hampden Park last Wednesday. Following a consultation with a specialist in London, Patterson will now undergo treatment under the care of Everton’s medical team at Finch Farm. FairWooney and Romey 1878 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FairWooney Posted September 28, 2022 Report Share Posted September 28, 2022 great news. Hopefully we'll have him back for a few games before the break. Need to be careful not to rush him back in but would be good to get a few games during a busy November before he gets a break . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StevO Posted September 28, 2022 Report Share Posted September 28, 2022 It’ll just be Coleman coming in. Frank is a bit predictable, and it’s no real danger. If he has to play five or six games he’ll be fine. The problem is when he needs to play 38 games. Matt, London Blue, Bailey and 1 other 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Zoo 2.0 Posted September 28, 2022 Popular Post Report Share Posted September 28, 2022 Unless Frank does something outside of the box and plays either Mykolenko or Vinagre on the right hand side as opposed to the left, it'll be Coleman coming in for all of the games that Pattinson is set to miss. I'm comfortable with him returning, and the abuse that is being posted around social media regarding Seamus is quite frankly disgraceful. StevO, Bailey, dunlopp9987 and 3 others 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Palfy Posted September 29, 2022 Report Share Posted September 29, 2022 11 hours ago, Zoo 2.0 said: Unless Frank does something outside of the box and plays either Mykolenko or Vinagre on the right hand side as opposed to the left, it'll be Coleman coming in for all of the games that Pattinson is set to miss. I'm comfortable with him returning, and the abuse that is being posted around social media regarding Seamus is quite frankly disgraceful. Agreed, Coleman will surprise quite a few people he is more than capable of standing in for Patterson, what he might lack in overall fitness he more than makes up in experience and knowledge. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hafnia Posted September 29, 2022 Report Share Posted September 29, 2022 Coleman was past his best 2 years ago as a full back. When far better right backs like Gary Neville become a fraction of the player they were when legs have gone it really doesn’t hold much hope for Coleman. I admire his longevity and desire to stay in the game but he is a liability. Great to have found the team clearly but I’d sooner play mills Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post duncanmckenzieismagic Posted September 29, 2022 Popular Post Report Share Posted September 29, 2022 5 hours ago, Hafnia said: Coleman was past his best 2 years ago as a full back. When far better right backs like Gary Neville become a fraction of the player they were when legs have gone it really doesn’t hold much hope for Coleman. I admire his longevity and desire to stay in the game but he is a liability. Great to have found the team clearly but I’d sooner play mills I’ve never seen Mills play apart from a couple of cameos in preseason so no idea whether or not he is ready tbh but I do know that Coleman has proved his doubters wrong many times before and I’m sure he will do again Personally I thought Coleman more than played his part in keeping us up last season so I have no worries whatsoever about him stepping in for a few games while Patterson is out Matt, MikeO, StevO and 2 others 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bill Posted September 29, 2022 Report Share Posted September 29, 2022 I'm quite happy to have Seamus as a back up, I think he would walk into half of the prem teams. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hafnia Posted September 29, 2022 Report Share Posted September 29, 2022 1 hour ago, duncanmckenzieismagic said: I’ve never seen Mills play apart from a couple of cameos in preseason so no idea whether or not he is ready tbh but I do know that Coleman has proved his doubters wrong many times before and I’m sure he will do again Personally I thought Coleman more than played his part in keeping us up last season so I have no worries whatsoever about him stepping in for a few games while Patterson is out Maybe he will do ok, I hope so. He did show great tenacity at the end of last season but seemingly made a few glaring errors, the palace game being one. I recall Peter Reid at the end of his Everton career, not great and sad to see. I hope he somehow rolls back the years. Gwlad and Palfy 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cornish Steve Posted September 30, 2022 Report Share Posted September 30, 2022 Given how we’re building from the back, Lampard will go with the least risky option. My guess is that it will be Coleman for 60 minutes and then Vinagre. Matt 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StevO Posted September 30, 2022 Report Share Posted September 30, 2022 2 hours ago, Cornish Steve said: Given how we’re building from the back, Lampard will go with the least risky option. My guess is that it will be Coleman for 60 minutes and then Vinagre. Coleman for 60 minutes and then Vinagre? What’s that based on Steve? Not trying to be funny, just genuinely curious. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cornish Steve Posted October 1, 2022 Report Share Posted October 1, 2022 1 hour ago, StevO said: Coleman for 60 minutes and then Vinagre? What’s that based on Steve? Not trying to be funny, just genuinely curious. Two experienced defenders. Coleman’s principal weakness appears to be stamina, so ask of him 60 minutes rather than 90. That’s my reasoning. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Btay Posted October 1, 2022 Report Share Posted October 1, 2022 I think theres a few options we can take but each option has its question marks. Everything in my heart says Coleman will be fine but my head points out to some of the mistakes he has made prior. Also if his legs have gone even more from last season then I really fear for him. Vinagre to LB & Myko to rb? Myko doesn’t offer a great deal going forward so him playing as a RB doesn’t concern me, Vinagre is meant to be an attacking fullback but didn’t have a great game in the cup. So it’s begs the question if he would be better than Coleman. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shukes Posted October 1, 2022 Report Share Posted October 1, 2022 I’m fine with him stepping in. He never makes anymore mistakes than any other player in the team. Effort is never questioned, which for me is No1. Sibdane and StevO 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StevO Posted October 1, 2022 Report Share Posted October 1, 2022 15 hours ago, Cornish Steve said: Two experienced defenders. Coleman’s principal weakness appears to be stamina, so ask of him 60 minutes rather than 90. That’s my reasoning. I get the bit about Coleman, just not why he would bring in Vinagre. He’s a left back, and has played as many games as Coleman in the last few months. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StevO Posted October 1, 2022 Report Share Posted October 1, 2022 14 hours ago, Btay said: I think theres a few options we can take but each option has its question marks. Everything in my heart says Coleman will be fine but my head points out to some of the mistakes he has made prior. Also if his legs have gone even more from last season then I really fear for him. Vinagre to LB & Myko to rb? Myko doesn’t offer a great deal going forward so him playing as a RB doesn’t concern me, Vinagre is meant to be an attacking fullback but didn’t have a great game in the cup. So it’s begs the question if he would be better than Coleman. Which mistakes Coleman has made are coming into your head? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Romey 1878 Posted October 1, 2022 Report Share Posted October 1, 2022 Fucked up the first two times the ball came to him but he grew into the game and looked less rusty as it went on. That's about all I can say about him today. StevO and Sibdane 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Romey 1878 Posted October 1, 2022 Report Share Posted October 1, 2022 3 hours ago, Romey 1878 said: Fucked up the first two times the ball came to him but he grew into the game and looked less rusty as it went on. That's about all I can say about him today. Definitely thought I was responding to the Coleman thread with this. Should have realised with TT that you should always check where you are! Matt 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Btay Posted October 2, 2022 Report Share Posted October 2, 2022 8 hours ago, StevO said: Which mistakes Coleman has made are coming into your head? Liverpool and palace. Scares the shit out of me when he is last man back from one of our corners. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt Posted October 2, 2022 Report Share Posted October 2, 2022 8 hours ago, Romey 1878 said: Definitely thought I was responding to the Coleman thread with this. Should have realised with TT that you should always check where you are! Pretty sure the titles are just suggestions of the topic to be fair... Romey 1878 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SpartyBlue Posted October 2, 2022 Report Share Posted October 2, 2022 14 hours ago, Romey 1878 said: Definitely thought I was responding to the Coleman thread with this. Should have realised with TT that you should always check where you are! I think overall we won’t miss Patterson too much. They are on about the same level for me in this moment in time. Two ships passing in the night as Seamus winds down his career at this level and Nathan ascends. You’d always want to play the kid so he can develop but for this season we have solid cover there. I assume you look for a solid RB in the summer. Obviously this is why we wanted to keep Kenny, though I don’t blame him for declining. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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