Popular Post StevO Posted January 30, 2022 Popular Post Report Share Posted January 30, 2022 30 minutes ago, Newty82 said: Clement as assistant...thats fuckin strong that. Like it. Very strong. Mad that we didn’t want Frank a few weeks ago, then we wanted him, now we’re just getting excited about his back room staff. People say Evertonians are negative, look at all this positivity!!! Newty82, Sibdane, Shukes and 4 others 2 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Newty82 Posted January 30, 2022 Report Share Posted January 30, 2022 1 minute ago, StevO said: Very strong. Mad that we didn’t want Frank a few weeks ago, then we wanted him, now we’re just getting excited about his back room staff. Evertonians aren't we London Blue, StevO and Palfy 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sibdane Posted January 30, 2022 Report Share Posted January 30, 2022 I’m very optimistic… then again I’m always optimistic after we hire a manager after sacking the previous one that had poor results. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RuffRob Posted January 30, 2022 Report Share Posted January 30, 2022 But just imagine this thread had Pereira got the job. Bailey, badaids and Gwlad 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
barryj Posted January 31, 2022 Report Share Posted January 31, 2022 3 hours ago, Cornish Steve said: Breaking news at the BBC website: Frank Lampard has accepted the role of Everton manager! But it’s been known since Friday The worst kept secret. Our club loves to move at a snails pace. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Romey 1878 Posted January 31, 2022 Report Share Posted January 31, 2022 https://www.theguardian.com/football/2022/jan/31/halt-the-slide-deal-with-dysfunction-frank-lampards-everton-tick-list Matt 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aidan Posted January 31, 2022 Report Share Posted January 31, 2022 So far were on the brink of signing VDB on loan, and have been linked to Deli Ali, Jesse Lingard, Idrissa Gueye, and Ruben Loftus-Cheek. A couple of central midfielders is obviously the priority for Lampard. I wonder if he will be wanting us to set up in a 433 more than a 4231. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
duncanmckenzieismagic Posted January 31, 2022 Report Share Posted January 31, 2022 Ashley Cole StevO 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post StevO Posted January 31, 2022 Popular Post Report Share Posted January 31, 2022 1 hour ago, duncanmckenzieismagic said: Ashley Cole Our back room staff are going to be better than our first team Newty82, nyblue23, Palfy and 4 others 1 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Goodison Glory Posted January 31, 2022 Report Share Posted January 31, 2022 22 minutes ago, StevO said: Our back room staff are going to be better than our first team Get John Terry in (even though he is a complete T**T). He can teach them how to defend set pieces. StevO 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dunlopp9987 Posted January 4, 2023 Report Share Posted January 4, 2023 Surprised I'm the first one to resurrect this thread Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StevO Posted January 4, 2023 Report Share Posted January 4, 2023 3 hours ago, dunlopp9987 said: Surprised I'm the first one to resurrect this thread I’m surprised none of us have deleted this miserable thread Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tonsta Posted January 4, 2023 Report Share Posted January 4, 2023 My vote would be Bielsa with Big Dunc as his assistant. The last thing we need is a big reputation who needs lots of money, we need some one to put fire in the belly, even Shaun Dyche would add bottle. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Romey 1878 Posted January 4, 2023 Report Share Posted January 4, 2023 1 hour ago, Tonsta said: My vote would be Bielsa with Big Dunc as his assistant. The last thing we need is a big reputation who needs lots of money, we need some one to put fire in the belly, even Shaun Dyche would add bottle. We finally got rid of that waste of space, let’s not bring him back ffs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tonsta Posted January 4, 2023 Report Share Posted January 4, 2023 1 hour ago, Romey 1878 said: We finally got rid of that waste of space, let’s not bring him back ffs. Seams to be a lot of people wanting to bring back the biggest waste of space namely Martinez I don't think Dunc is a waste of space, he is a man of great passion, and would bring heart to club if he was given a leading role. imho Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StevO Posted January 5, 2023 Report Share Posted January 5, 2023 4 hours ago, Tonsta said: My vote would be Bielsa with Big Dunc as his assistant. The last thing we need is a big reputation who needs lots of money, we need some one to put fire in the belly, even Shaun Dyche would add bottle. Any idea of picking the assistant manager of a new manager, forget about it. It very rarely works that way, unless a club is doing someone a favour (like Duncan). Quinn31 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Romey 1878 Posted January 5, 2023 Report Share Posted January 5, 2023 1 hour ago, Tonsta said: Seams to be a lot of people wanting to bring back the biggest waste of space namely Martinez I don't think Dunc is a waste of space, he is a man of great passion, and would bring heart to club if he was given a leading role. imho Well I’m not one of them. He is. He stole a living from us as a player and then carried at on when he returned as a coach. He left here to pursue a career as a manager. How’s that gone? Ah yes, he’s still unemployed because other clubs have got some sense. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Palfy Posted January 5, 2023 Report Share Posted January 5, 2023 2 hours ago, RPG said: I tend to agree. There are many reasons why we are in the mess we are in and 'jobs for the boys' has to be a contributing factor. It's nice if we can get success while being managed by people with an Everton background or link (cough, Eddie Howe) but they first have to be good enough and experienced enough. DF hasn't demonstrated that he is either of those yet and, given our desperate position, we can't afford to take the chance. But Ferguson has more experience in coaching than Lampard, he also has a hell of a lot more coaching badges than Lampard, yet Lampard was given the job with little experience and no previous success, yet there wasn't many highlighting that or caring about that situation when he was appointed manager. So regardless of who we are talking about shouldn't experience been the overriding factor when Lampard was handed the job, I think you will find the answer is yes, and as you are right about Ferguson not getting the job because of his lack of experience, then why was this not a consideration when Lampard was given the role. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Palfy Posted January 5, 2023 Report Share Posted January 5, 2023 1 hour ago, RPG said: I agree, but look where appointing Lampard has got us. I think there was quite a bit of fan pressure to appoint Lampard (which the club pretty much gave in to) and to follow the same 'rinse and repeat' process of failure with DF (nothing against DF personally) is too big of a gamble imho. If we are going to make a change it needs to be quick and only for an experienced current or reasonably recent PL manager imho. I can't really think of anyone who fits the bill who might be prepared to join our shit show. My confidence in Lampard, the players and the board has sunk even lower than I thought to be possible but I do think that the best way out of this mess is to circle the wagons, adopt a siege mentality and to come out with the 'dogs of war' attitude in every game. It seems we are capable of doing it in 'difficult' games but can't handle the pressure and don't have the creativity to cope with games we might be expected to win. OK, so lets set up with three at the back in every game to the end of the season, play with a low block and on the break. It won't be pretty but it is (imho) our best chance of avoiding relegation and we don't (shouldn't?) need to change the manager to do that. Meanwhile, once the Jan transfer window closes let Thelwell start preparing for next season. Team selection v Man U on Friday and the attitude of those that play will be quite revealing I think. I would start the same 11 that started v Man City. The need for a good performance outweighs the risk of players picking up injuries or suspensions for Soton and West Ham games I think. That's what I was trying to convey, fans are questioning Ferguson's ability who is more qualified than Lampard, yet the same fans never questioned Lampard at the time and look at the mess he has helped get us into, with the help and backing of Moshiri. I'm not advocating Ferguson in anyway because of the same reasons I didn't advocate Lampard, it was the wrong job and the wrong time for anyone who lacked experience and especially for someone who in his career had never experienced the lows that being at Everton would subject you to, which is why he is clearly clueless in his signings and what to do. Let's be honest I bet Moshiri at this moment in time, is considering giving Allardyce a call, and I would say there's a lot worse we could end up with, for me there is only one realistic choice and that is Dyche. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikeO Posted January 5, 2023 Report Share Posted January 5, 2023 Bookies have Rooney as favourite Don't shoot the messenger Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hafnia Posted January 5, 2023 Report Share Posted January 5, 2023 I think it will be dyche myself. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RuffRob Posted January 5, 2023 Report Share Posted January 5, 2023 Not sure what more you get with an inexperienced Rooney to a Lampard. Would really like to see Rooney cutting his teeth proper as a manager before he has his time with us. Maybe one of Lampard's problems is his inexperience as a manager working with this squad. We could ruin Rooney as a potential future Everton manager, by giving him this poor squad to manage. For me it not his time yet. Experienced managers have struggles to do much with it. Ferguson is not a option - he's never managed. Martinez - no no no. Did nothing with an amazing Belgium squad, how he stayed in that job for so long is a mystery to me. What we are going to now have to navigate this second half of the season - Lampard and most of the players have been through it once. I think we all know Frank can and if needed will adopt different tactic to shore us up and play on the backfoot (even if he doesn't really want to) and grind out results. Do we think these other candidates are a better option to navigate the waters ahead. I am not so confident. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt Posted January 5, 2023 Report Share Posted January 5, 2023 Jesus wept. Romey 1878 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RuffRob Posted January 5, 2023 Report Share Posted January 5, 2023 also in the next month or so - Moyes or even Graham Potter might be out of a job. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Formby Posted January 5, 2023 Report Share Posted January 5, 2023 21 minutes ago, Matt said: Jesus wept. Rather than crying, any chance he could work us a little miracle? Matt and Gwlad 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt Posted January 5, 2023 Report Share Posted January 5, 2023 Just now, Formby said: Rather than crying, any chance he could work us a little miracle? Pretty sure he won't deal with those who already sold their soul. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bailey Posted January 5, 2023 Report Share Posted January 5, 2023 13 hours ago, RPG said: I tend to agree. There are many reasons why we are in the mess we are in and 'jobs for the boys' has to be a contributing factor. It's nice if we can get success while being managed by people with an Everton background or link (cough, Eddie Howe) but they first have to be good enough and experienced enough. DF hasn't demonstrated that he is either of those yet and, given our desperate position, we can't afford to take the chance. A lot of clubs do give "jobs for the boys" though so it isn't just an Everton thing. I think it is important to have coaches at the club that get the Everton way in the right positions. Where you need technical specialists you need to make sure they are filled by people who have that expertise. We need to move away from the inexperienced managers and make sure we bring someone in that has proven themselves as a competent manager that has improved teams. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Formby Posted January 5, 2023 Report Share Posted January 5, 2023 Without new signings, I don't think any manager can save us. With new signings, the question is, from the gallery of second-rate chancers we're being offered, is there anyone who is more likely to save us than Lampard? Dyche, Moyes, Allardyce? Those names make grim reading, more the school of agriculture than science, not that anyone will care if we avoid relegation (again). At this late stage, it's pretty obvious the board still has absolutely no idea what to do. If it were me, I would stick with Frank. If we're going with some body else, go with Rooney. He would get the fans and the players onside in an instant. Experience be damned. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Formby Posted January 5, 2023 Report Share Posted January 5, 2023 16 minutes ago, Matt said: Pretty sure he won't deal with those who already sold their soul. It's never too late to repent, @Matt! Or so I'm told.... Matt 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Palfy Posted January 5, 2023 Report Share Posted January 5, 2023 2 hours ago, MikeO said: Bookies have Rooney as favourite Don't shoot the messenger Bang, that was a warning shot mate Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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