c1982 Posted May 29, 2022 Report Share Posted May 29, 2022 7 minutes ago, RPG said: Stability and progress is all we can realistically have a right to expect - maybe with a good cup run. It takes time (several seasons) to overhaul and organise a club from the top down so I think we will see a series of small steps. If we get the right players in (and out) we might see more of the 3-4-3 formation. But what I don't want to see is chopping and changing of formations and personnel - unless dictated by injuries. We need to develop a style, a preferred formation and also have a very good idea of our best starting eleven. Spot on - the right players in need to be young and hungry. If not young and no resale then the deal needs to make business sense e.g Tarkowski on a free as long as the wage demands stay within the structure - if this allows us to then sell Keane, it’s very good business. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
duncanmckenzieismagic Posted May 29, 2022 Report Share Posted May 29, 2022 I think the game has gone now. With FFP/ VAR and the Champions League the gap is only going to get bigger. It will be The Shite and City fighting for the title, then the other 4 members of the Sky 6 scrapping for the remaining 2 Champions League places. Everyone else will just be trying to survive Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hafnia Posted May 29, 2022 Report Share Posted May 29, 2022 2 hours ago, duncanmckenzieismagic said: I think the game has gone now. With FFP/ VAR and the Champions League the gap is only going to get bigger. It will be The Shite and City fighting for the title, then the other 4 members of the Sky 6 scrapping for the remaining 2 Champions League places. Everyone else will just be trying to survive UEFA after the shambolic organisation and getting called out by Liverpool will no doubt have their officials against them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Goodison Glory Posted May 29, 2022 Report Share Posted May 29, 2022 2 hours ago, Hafnia said: UEFA after the shambolic organisation and getting called out by Liverpool will no doubt have their officials against them. I sympathise a little bit with the French. I understand cities normally get 18 months to prepare for a CL final but they were given 3 months. I am sure things could've gone better with greater investment and better planning but seems to me like it was asking for trouble (but they couldn't keep the final in St Petersburg!) Sibdane 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gwlad Posted May 29, 2022 Report Share Posted May 29, 2022 5 hours ago, duncanmckenzieismagic said: I think the game has gone now. With FFP/ VAR and the Champions League the gap is only going to get bigger. It will be The Shite and City fighting for the title, then the other 4 members of the Sky 6 scrapping for the remaining 2 Champions League places. Everyone else will just be trying to survive Which is why, next season, we need to be pragmatic. Reorganise and a top 10 finish should be achievable and acceptable. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StevO Posted May 30, 2022 Author Report Share Posted May 30, 2022 18 hours ago, Gwlad all over said: Which is why, next season, we need to be pragmatic. Reorganise and a top 10 finish should be achievable and acceptable. I’ll take 14th right now, with the possibility of stability at the club. 12th the season after. Palfy 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Palfy Posted May 30, 2022 Report Share Posted May 30, 2022 3 hours ago, StevO said: I’ll take 14th right now, with the possibility of stability at the club. 12th the season after. Agreed 10th is just building your expectations up and heaping pressure on Lampard, we are at rock bottom let’s keep sensible and realistic there’s a lot of work to do with this squad repairing the damage of the last 7 years, thanks to our illustrious owner and his flock. StevO 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MC11 Posted May 30, 2022 Report Share Posted May 30, 2022 On 28/05/2022 at 17:02, Cornish Steve said: @MC11 In an act of staggering generosity, I'm willing to give you the chance to back out of your reckless wager. Do you wish to change your mind, or are you sticking with your prediction? I’m sticking with it. I don’t see him long term. He has a lot to prove. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shukes Posted May 30, 2022 Report Share Posted May 30, 2022 10th, 12th? You all crazy! Top Eight this season, cup final and Europe! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RuffRob Posted May 30, 2022 Report Share Posted May 30, 2022 6 hours ago, StevO said: I’ll take 14th right now, with the possibility of stability at the club. 12th the season after. I think this is far more realistic if we are not able to have any sort of net spend and want to try and build with youngsters. There are far more than 10 teams in the Premiership who are currently in a better shape than us squad and club structure organisation wise. We are at the beginning of a rebuild - and currently with one hand tied behind our back because of FFP. There is a massive gulf between the top 6 or so who generate massive amounts of money and the rest of the league. However, between us and the other also ran's, because TV money is so dominant in the clubs finances now, the fact that we have 40,000 fans in our Stadium it doesn't really make a massive difference these days - When it comes to average earning we are not significantly much better off than the likes of Palace or Wolves of this world. In the current climate I still don't thing some fan realsie how much, now more than ever, was are simply just an also ran Premiership club who make up the numbers in the division. With no real spending power, its going to take a hell of a lot of work and a good slice of luck to even be sniffing around the top 10. StevO, Quinn31 and Sibdane 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post msloan78 Posted May 31, 2022 Popular Post Report Share Posted May 31, 2022 Lampard been fined £30k for comments after the Liverpool game according to SSN. I look forward to seeing fines for people like Gerrard etc, particularly after his comments about John Moss at the back end of the year. Quinn31, Matt, Romey 1878 and 3 others 5 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shukes Posted May 31, 2022 Report Share Posted May 31, 2022 We will never be an ALSO RAN football club. No matter what division we are in, how much money we have, or what players we have. NEVER! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Romey 1878 Posted May 31, 2022 Report Share Posted May 31, 2022 1 hour ago, Shukes said: We will never be an ALSO RAN football club. No matter what division we are in, how much money we have, or what players we have. NEVER! Day drinking again, Shukes? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shukes Posted May 31, 2022 Report Share Posted May 31, 2022 5 minutes ago, Romey 1878 said: Day drinking again, Shukes? No mate, not just yet haha. But will never accept us as an also ran club. And cannot accept that teams like West Ham, Brighton, and the likes are doing something special compared to us. Now let me get back to my chilled wine! Romey 1878 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Finn balor Posted June 5, 2022 Report Share Posted June 5, 2022 Within reality Pickford patterson. Godfrey tarkowski. Miky Zinchenko Gallagher iwobi Gordon DCl Richy winning the lot Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
London Blue Posted June 5, 2022 Report Share Posted June 5, 2022 1 hour ago, Finn balor said: Within reality Pickford patterson. Godfrey tarkowski. Miky Zinchenko Gallagher iwobi Gordon DCl Richy winning the lot You know Monday isn't a bank holiday right Matt, plaidharper, StevO and 1 other 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Romey 1878 Posted June 9, 2022 Report Share Posted June 9, 2022 https://www.evertonfc.com/news/2641170/lampard-i-identify-with-everton-passion-and-honesty Cornish Steve and Gwlad 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
duncanmckenzieismagic Posted June 12, 2022 Report Share Posted June 12, 2022 https://www.theguardian.com/football/2022/jun/12/frank-lampard-everton-transfers-moshiri London Blue 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
London Blue Posted June 12, 2022 Report Share Posted June 12, 2022 4 hours ago, duncanmckenzieismagic said: https://www.theguardian.com/football/2022/jun/12/frank-lampard-everton-transfers-moshiri Sounds like lessons have been learnt. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bailey Posted June 12, 2022 Report Share Posted June 12, 2022 I was just looking at some stats for another post and thought I would look at our time under Lampard. When you take into account that we played more games than most during that period, out attacking performances were around bottom 3 level (well 4th worst) and our defensive performances put us around 7th from bottom. Interestingly over that same period, Wolves underlying stats were terrible but they way outperformed themselves. They played 1 less game and earned 3 points less, averaging a point a game. If that is them overperforming, next season they could be in trouble! Btay 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Btay Posted June 14, 2022 Report Share Posted June 14, 2022 On 13/06/2022 at 07:12, Bailey said: I was just looking at some stats for another post and thought I would look at our time under Lampard. When you take into account that we played more games than most during that period, out attacking performances were around bottom 3 level (well 4th worst) and our defensive performances put us around 7th from bottom. Interestingly over that same period, Wolves underlying stats were terrible but they way outperformed themselves. They played 1 less game and earned 3 points less, averaging a point a game. If that is them overperforming, next season they could be in trouble! I’m just really hoping next season we can start positive. Lampards biggest job was to bring to morale up which was low and definitely a factor in how shit we were. We’re still shit but I’m just hoping we be a little less shit this year and maybe, just maybe verge on being average. Bailey 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StevO Posted June 14, 2022 Author Report Share Posted June 14, 2022 6 hours ago, Btay said: I’m just really hoping next season we can start positive. Lampards biggest job was to bring to morale up which was low and definitely a factor in how shit we were. We’re still shit but I’m just hoping we be a little less shit this year and maybe, just maybe verge on being average. I’d be made up if we were average this season. AlbanyNYToffee and Btay 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bailey Posted June 14, 2022 Report Share Posted June 14, 2022 7 hours ago, Btay said: I’m just really hoping next season we can start positive. Lampards biggest job was to bring to morale up which was low and definitely a factor in how shit we were. We’re still shit but I’m just hoping we be a little less shit this year and maybe, just maybe verge on being average. What is that in latin? It fits better than the one we have at the moment Btay 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikeO Posted June 14, 2022 Report Share Posted June 14, 2022 10 minutes ago, Bailey said: What is that in latin? It fits better than the one we have at the moment Adhuc cacas sumus, sed modo speramus nos hoc anno paulo minus esse cacas et fortasse, modo fortasse vergere in mediocris esse. Bailey 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bailey Posted June 14, 2022 Report Share Posted June 14, 2022 1 minute ago, MikeO said: Adhuc cacas sumus, sed modo speramus nos hoc anno paulo minus esse cacas et fortasse, modo fortasse vergere in mediocris esse. Ill take your word for it It might be a bit long though! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt Posted June 14, 2022 Report Share Posted June 14, 2022 6 hours ago, Bailey said: Ill take your word for it It might be a bit long though! We're still shit, but we just hope this year will be a little less shit and perhaps, just maybe, tend to be on average. Google translate is a great way to make sure Mike isn't up to no good as usual Bailey 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikeO Posted June 14, 2022 Report Share Posted June 14, 2022 36 minutes ago, Matt said: We're still shit, but we just hope this year will be a little less shit and perhaps, just maybe, tend to be on average. Google translate is a great way to make sure Mike isn't up to no good as usual Et tu, Mattus? Matt 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
plaidharper Posted June 14, 2022 Report Share Posted June 14, 2022 All this talk has me thinking about this. Hopefully less malakia in the future. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dunlopp9987 Posted June 17, 2022 Report Share Posted June 17, 2022 https://www.goodisonnews.com/2022/06/16/everton-tried-to-replace-frank-lampard-with-manuel-pellegrini-in-may/?amp Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Romey 1878 Posted June 17, 2022 Report Share Posted June 17, 2022 9 minutes ago, dunlopp9987 said: https://www.goodisonnews.com/2022/06/16/everton-tried-to-replace-frank-lampard-with-manuel-pellegrini-in-may/?amp Of course we did. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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