Popular Post Zoo 2.0 Posted May 19, 2022 Popular Post Report Share Posted May 19, 2022 Said it before but it proper feels different under Frank, he absolutely gets us. I just want my club back, and I feel as though I'm closer to seeing that under Lampard. Back him in the summer, let whoever wants to go leave and then see where we're at in August and September. Without being negative, it's a long road to recovery but the initial steps can certainly be placed - we shouldn't be anywhere near a relegation battle next season if we recruit well. Matt, StevO, Bailey and 2 others 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gwlad Posted May 19, 2022 Report Share Posted May 19, 2022 In safe hands for next season. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Newty82 Posted May 19, 2022 Report Share Posted May 19, 2022 I don't expect much next season, for many many reasons that I'm sure we all know, but I do really look forward to seeing us with Lampard at the helm. I just hope we wind our necks in, be honestly realistic and give him a real good shot at it. Matt, StevO, Bailey and 1 other 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Btay Posted May 19, 2022 Popular Post Report Share Posted May 19, 2022 9 minutes ago, Newty82 said: I don't expect much next season, for many many reasons that I'm sure we all know, but I do really look forward to seeing us with Lampard at the helm. I just hope we wind our necks in, be honestly realistic and give him a real good shot at it. What ever happens I think we’ve got that bond back between fans and the team. It’s all the fans have wanted, is to have a team they can cheer and I just hope this season was our rock bottom and we build something strong here dunlopp9987, StevO, Heath and 3 others 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post MikeO Posted May 19, 2022 Popular Post Report Share Posted May 19, 2022 10 minutes ago, Newty82 said: I don't expect much next season, for many many reasons that I'm sure we all know, but I do really look forward to seeing us with Lampard at the helm. I just hope we wind our necks in, be honestly realistic and give him a real good shot at it. Just want progress, not looking for European qualification, comfortable mid table will keep me sane. Quinn31, Newty82, dunlopp9987 and 6 others 9 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Zoo 2.0 Posted May 19, 2022 Popular Post Report Share Posted May 19, 2022 dunlopp9987, Romey 1878, London Blue and 4 others 7 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Matt Posted May 19, 2022 Popular Post Report Share Posted May 19, 2022 Again he adapted. Tried something, didn't work, so he took the brave decision and adapted. I don't remember ever seeing that before bar 1 game with Martinez when he made an early sub. I was nervous when he came in but he's done the near impossible and got the team playing like a team. Can't blame him for individual mistakes, can't blame him for the officials. Still got a lot to learn but if he can continue to adapt and not be too proud to change, then we're onto a winner with him. Romey 1878, Heath, StevO and 4 others 7 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hafnia Posted May 19, 2022 Report Share Posted May 19, 2022 5 minutes ago, Matt said: Again he adapted. Tried something, didn't work, so he took the brave decision and adapted. I don't remember ever seeing that before bar 1 game with Martinez when he made an early sub. I was nervous when he came in but he's done the near impossible and got the team playing like a team. Can't blame him for individual mistakes, can't blame him for the officials. Still got a lot to learn but if he can continue to adapt and not be too proud to change, then we're onto a winner with him. I think it was final throw of the dice. I like lampard and want him to be the manager to take us forward but I don’t see how Gomes played last 2 games…. I honestly don’t. he’s a bloke with integrity and intelligence, I hope he learns quick… if he does we have a keeper. Brilliant at uniting the components plaidharper and duncanmckenzieismagic 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt Posted May 19, 2022 Report Share Posted May 19, 2022 1 minute ago, Hafnia said: I think it was final throw of the dice. I like lampard and want him to be the manager to take us forward but I don’t see how Gomes played last 2 games…. I honestly don’t. But so many wouldn't though. Many would've stuck to their game plan even though it wasn't working, and he's done it a few times since he came. He's different in many ways. dunlopp9987 and Hafnia 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hafnia Posted May 19, 2022 Report Share Posted May 19, 2022 6 minutes ago, Matt said: But so many wouldn't though. Many would've stuck to their game plan even though it wasn't working, and he's done it a few times since he came. He's different in many ways. Yeah I agree with that. let’s just say I believe he loves Chelsea….. but he has found himself in bed with cindy Crawford and he doesn’t want to go home. Matt 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt Posted May 19, 2022 Report Share Posted May 19, 2022 Maybe reading too much into this but mentioned Bill and Denise then the ex-players, but not the owner. Something else in there about speaking truth behind the scenes, I wonder... Heath and Romey 1878 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dunlopp9987 Posted May 19, 2022 Report Share Posted May 19, 2022 We've talked at length about Frank getting it right by bringing Dele on, but let's not forget the Gray for Gordon swap. It was Gray's initial footwork that set up the second goal, and then his free kick that Dom headed in. Had that been Gordon delivering the set piece, not a chance it goes to where it needs to be StevO, Heath, plaidharper and 1 other 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Romey 1878 Posted May 19, 2022 Popular Post Report Share Posted May 19, 2022 I fucking love this man for what he's done in such a short period of time. He got the fans on side when we were so divided and I think that one thing is the most important thing he's done - without that I really think we'd have gone down with a whimper and not stayed up with the fight and character that we have. The backing the players have had from us these past few months has gotten them over the line and made them give everything they had to keep us up. Matt, StevO, Heath and 5 others 8 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shukes Posted May 19, 2022 Report Share Posted May 19, 2022 Have they started building his statue yet? Newty82 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RuffRob Posted May 19, 2022 Report Share Posted May 19, 2022 Frank is still a very young and relatively inexperienced manager, who to some degree has that monkey on his back of being a top player going in to management. He is still raw and is a long way from a tactical genious. However, he is no fool and is hard working (as he was a player), but the fella has passion and has it by the bucket load. This club and Frank Lampard football manager can grow together. Its been a tough gig so far, i think he tinkered with how he would like to play early doors, but was smart enough to know the timing wasn't right and changed things up. I think there is the feeling that we have now over come the trauma of this season together and a strong bond is already forming. London Blue, dunlopp9987, Heath and 1 other 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Palfy Posted May 20, 2022 Report Share Posted May 20, 2022 5 hours ago, Matt said: Maybe reading too much into this but mentioned Bill and Denise then the ex-players, but not the owner. Something else in there about speaking truth behind the scenes, I wonder... Maybe because the owner hasn’t had the courage to attend a match for eons, but no doubt we will see the wanker first home game next season. Newty82 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Palfy Posted May 20, 2022 Report Share Posted May 20, 2022 Lampard’s most game changing decision was to bring Iwobi into the heart of the midfield form his wingback position, as soon as that happened the game changed. dunlopp9987, FairWooney, Heath and 1 other 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post FairWooney Posted May 20, 2022 Popular Post Report Share Posted May 20, 2022 I think he did mention the owner if not in that interview then in the BBC one. Yes Iwobi going into the middle was an obvious change but an important one to make and he was able to get more involved. I'd like to hope we don't have to see Iwobi playing wing back next season! A lot of jibe's on Twitter of Lampard's "great job taking Everton from 16th to 16th since coming in". what they miss is that we were a sinking ship, players low on confidence, a lack of fight and spirit from the players and the same from the fans who were watching Rafa's team resigned to a poor display and a likely loss, filing out quietly after another defeat. Frank both through his attitude and what he got out of the players helped to get that fire back in the fans and really lift the spirit of the club as a whole. I hope that he gets backed to help us progress and whilst we may not have a lot to spend, even if we make a big sale or two he needs to be backed by the club in every way they can and by the fans who all too often help to force a manager out. You can see the passion he has for his job and that whilst he makes mistakes he learns from them quickly and with the support of the staff he has around him I think he can keep improving and improve Everton. Heath, Matt, MikeO and 4 others 5 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Newty82 Posted May 20, 2022 Popular Post Report Share Posted May 20, 2022 Dunno where else to put this, probably right here is...right! Feeling massively grateful to Lampard just now. The amount of piss taking, mockery and ignorance outside of this club just now shows how much Lampard has brought this club back to us. They have absolutely no idea. I'll be dead honest. Not long ago, I thought we were gone. It might have been post that Burnley game. We were struggling to score, couldn't keep clean sheets. You know the dance. I thought relegation was inevitable. Just before that, I'd never felt so distant from the club. Rafa was running riot. The club was clearly fucked behind the scenes. You know what I mean I'd quit my job in January and gone self employed from Feb 1st. I was just like 'I need to focus elsewhere because this is too distracting for me'. Even stopped watching games for a short while. Couldn't take it. But the way Lampard has helped gel us all again - its worth more than any of those glory chasing plastic fans will ever understand. And to be able to hear and see the fans united again - fuckin love that. Even getting back on here and reading the Positivity from forum legends has kept me in touch. Feeling...all sorts today! Cheers London Blue, Wiggytop, MikeO and 3 others 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heath Posted May 20, 2022 Report Share Posted May 20, 2022 It's going to be interesting to see who Lampard brings in and who he (tries) to offload during the summer. A bit of patience and time will be needed for him to build the squad he wants and to implement his 'system' and playing style. Wiggytop 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wall Writer Posted May 20, 2022 Report Share Posted May 20, 2022 Waking up the morning after the night before and it does seem that something special happened last night. I really it hope it marks a turning point for the club. I think Frank has really bought in to the club. He's been able to bring the club, the players and the fans back into some kind of unity and that was what we saw last night with those incredible scenes. We can put this nightmare of a season behind us now and start looking to really rebuild this squad. It'll take time and patience and hopefully Frank will get that and be successful. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Romey 1878 Posted May 20, 2022 Popular Post Report Share Posted May 20, 2022 1 hour ago, FairWooney said: I think he did mention the owner if not in that interview then in the BBC one. Yes Iwobi going into the middle was an obvious change but an important one to make and he was able to get more involved. I'd like to hope we don't have to see Iwobi playing wing back next season! A lot of jibe's on Twitter of Lampard's "great job taking Everton from 16th to 16th since coming in". what they miss is that we were a sinking ship, players low on confidence, a lack of fight and spirit from the players and the same from the fans who were watching Rafa's team resigned to a poor display and a likely loss, filing out quietly after another defeat. Frank both through his attitude and what he got out of the players helped to get that fire back in the fans and really lift the spirit of the club as a whole. I hope that he gets backed to help us progress and whilst we may not have a lot to spend, even if we make a big sale or two he needs to be backed by the club in every way they can and by the fans who all too often help to force a manager out. You can see the passion he has for his job and that whilst he makes mistakes he learns from them quickly and with the support of the staff he has around him I think he can keep improving and improve Everton. 26 minutes ago, Newty82 said: Dunno where else to put this, probably right here is...right! Feeling massively grateful to Lampard just now. The amount of piss taking, mockery and ignorance outside of this club just now shows how much Lampard has brought this club back to us. They have absolutely no idea. I'll be dead honest. Not long ago, I thought we were gone. It might have been post that Burnley game. We were struggling to score, couldn't keep clean sheets. You know the dance. I thought relegation was inevitable. Just before that, I'd never felt so distant from the club. Rafa was running riot. The club was clearly fucked behind the scenes. You know what I mean I'd quit my job in January and gone self employed from Feb 1st. I was just like 'I need to focus elsewhere because this is too distracting for me'. Even stopped watching games for a short while. Couldn't take it. But the way Lampard has helped gel us all again - its worth more than any of those glory chasing plastic fans will ever understand. And to be able to hear and see the fans united again - fuckin love that. Even getting back on here and reading the Positivity from forum legends has kept me in touch. Feeling...all sorts today! Cheers People on the outside really don't get it and probably still think that other fuck was doing a good job and should've been given longer. What was it, 1 win in 14 or something? How on earth is that a manager doing a good job? If we'd given him longer then we'd have been gone. It was almost too late as it was! That might seem an extreme view because we were outside the relegation zone and had a bit of daylight between us and the bottom 3, but we were in absolute freefall. We looked disorganised, confused, we were shipping goals, didn't look like we had a clue how to attack and were relying on a few pieces of individual brilliance to get anything from games... Then you add in how divided the fanbase was during all of it and it was a recipe for disaster. I think we'd have finished in the bottom 2 and been nowhere even having a chance of staying up with 2 games to go. Frank Lampard made Everton Everton again. Those that don't understand don't matter. The other one might've known the city but Lampard knows the club and that'll more than do for me. And, Newty, cheers for calling me a legend. It's much appreciated . London Blue, StevO, FairWooney and 5 others 5 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
London Blue Posted May 20, 2022 Report Share Posted May 20, 2022 He might of started at West Ham, and played for Chelsea, and they will always be part of his life, but he is our Frank now, and we are his club. Anyone who has any doubt just watch him climbing onto the directors box and celebrating with fans, listen to his interviews. What I love is his determination to do things the right way, to improve the club, squad, team and himself, we can grow together. You can tell he can't wait (after a well-earned break) to re make this side, to play his football, and I cant wait to see it! With so many players expected to leave at the end of the season we have a little bit of room to sign players, I genuinely believe Frank and his team will already have targets and will handle it in a very professional way. I have hope. Romey 1878 and StevO 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Phoenix Posted May 20, 2022 Report Share Posted May 20, 2022 I’ll start by saying I’m sorry for being negative but here goes. I am grateful that Frank has come in and pulled us back from falling into oblivion but as far as I am concerned the jury is still out. I understand he came in late and inherited a squad after the transfer window closed which was no easy task. He’ll have a full pre season to plan now so I have questions. 1: Does Frank have a clear idea about what our football identity will be? We’ve been disjointed and confused for far to long following the manager merry go round. We need focus, direction 2: Which of our existing players fit into that identify and can we keep them? 3: What will his recruitment approach be to fit his vision but also work with in the budget we have (I am worried FFP will be a stick to beat us with and the FA will be sniffing around) 4: Will he make the hard decisions and move on players who just aren’t good enough or are to old? This is not the time for sentiment 5: Will he have the tenacity to stand up to the owners when the decide to interfere as usual Like I said sorry for being negative but I for one will feels a little more trusting when these things are answered StevO and Heath 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tonsta Posted May 20, 2022 Report Share Posted May 20, 2022 I hope we have learnt from the last 15 years of sack and spend. I for one want to give Frank a fair crack of the whip, with time and a sensible budget. My fear is BK will sack him in November after the world cup, and bring that clown RM back, to take another fortune off us. Heath 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cornish Steve Posted May 20, 2022 Report Share Posted May 20, 2022 15 hours ago, RuffRob said: Frank is still a very young and relatively inexperienced manager, who to some degree has that monkey on his back of being a top player going in to management. He is still raw and is a long way from a tactical genious. However, he is no fool and is hard working (as he was a player), but the fella has passion and has it by the bucket load. This club and Frank Lampard football manager can grow together. Its been a tough gig so far, i think he tinkered with how he would like to play early doors, but was smart enough to know the timing wasn't right and changed things up. I think there is the feeling that we have now over come the trauma of this season together and a strong bond is already forming. The single biggest decision he made, IMO, was to bring in an experienced coaching team and to trust them. This is how you overcome the limitations of personal inexperience. Heath, Matt and StevO 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cornish Steve Posted May 20, 2022 Report Share Posted May 20, 2022 This season has been "A Tale of Two Managers". The first was wrong at every level - deceiving too many by early wins against easier teams. Even then, we were thrashed by Watford. There was a disconnect with the fans from Day One, and, watching training videos, there was a disconnect with the players, too. He played favourites. He stuck with a losing strategy. There's not one single thing I can think of that was a redeeming feature. And we left it until it was almost too late to get rid. You can't turn a big ship quickly, and no manager could achieve an instant turn-around given the terrible state we were in. The easier games of the second half of the season had already been lost, and the schedule was now challenging. As mentioned above, we brought in not only a new manager but an experienced and focused coaching team. Training videos revealed a change in tempo, much greater interaction and participation by coaches, and at last some smiles. The shadow of the former manager could still be seen in attitude away from home, in giving up too soon, and in letting leads slip. I was really concerned after the loss to Burnley, even while logic told me it will take time for a complete turn-around. What saved us in the end? Getting the best out of players who weren't playing to their potential. Pickford has been epic, so let's not overlook the impact of the new manager on him. Keane, struggling with confidence, made some key contributions (although not yet over his struggles). Holgate is a changed player, arrogance replaced by confidence. Iwobi - just wow. He might be the single biggest reason why we won some recent games. Delph, ridiculed by all, became an important player. Gordon, while still growing as a player, made his mark. And Gomes deservedly took a back seat (I don't understand why he started over Allan, but we got the result we needed). Our goal next season needs to be to finish in the middle third of the table with a consistent style of play. There will be changes, for sure, to our roster, and I hope two or three youngsters will come through the ranks. We won't have the funds for wholesale changes, and too much change hurts anyway. Several contracts will end and won't be renewed, which is mostly positive. While I suspect DC-L will leave, I really hope Richarlison stays. Most of all, our new manager needs time. There will be disappointments along the way, but the momentum has turned. After being in the pits of despair after learning we'd hired Benitez (reinforced by just about everything he did), optimism has returned, and I'm genuinely looking forward to the new season. StevO, dunlopp9987, Heath and 1 other 3 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bailey Posted May 20, 2022 Report Share Posted May 20, 2022 18 hours ago, Matt said: Maybe reading too much into this but mentioned Bill and Denise then the ex-players, but not the owner. Something else in there about speaking truth behind the scenes, I wonder... As someone else has said he gave thanks to the owner at one point. I think it was in the Sky interview but I am pretty sure he was one of the first people he mentioned. Heath 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gwlad Posted May 20, 2022 Report Share Posted May 20, 2022 2 hours ago, Cornish Steve said: The single biggest decision he made, IMO, was to bring in an experienced coaching team and to trust them. This is how you overcome the limitations of personal inexperience. You don't get a more experienced coach than Paul Clement. Regarding Cornish's next post I'm pretty sure Richarlison will go, he desperately wants CL I would imagine. Dom might stay now that the ship has been steadied. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gwlad Posted May 20, 2022 Report Share Posted May 20, 2022 https://www.liverpoolecho.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/frank-lampard-everton-celebrations-24004304?utm_source=linkCopy&utm_medium=social&utm_campaign=sharebar Kopite comments. They can't stand that we stay in the Premier League Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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